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Post by observer on Dec 20, 2015 13:16:24 GMT
For what it's worth...my wife's auntie, a PSOE member in Andalusia, has just telephoned and reports extreme nervousness in PSOE ranks. They suspect the polls are wrong and that there has been last-minute movement to other parties (not sure which) which the polls are not picking up - a bit like our own May election.
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Post by bolbridge on Dec 20, 2015 13:37:17 GMT
A lot of the (rumoured) polls this week have shown a swing away from C's and to Podemos, so much so that PP+C's fall short of a majority and Podemos come second.
In this scenario, it's very difficult to see what government could be formed - almost all the smaller parties won't do any deal involving the PP or C's.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 20, 2015 19:05:12 GMT
Exit poll:
PP 114-118
PSOE 81-85
Podemos 76-80
Ciudadanos 47-50
ERC-CATSI 9-11
DL 6-7
EH BILDU 3-4
IU-UPeC 3-4
CCa-PNC 0-1
GBAI 0-1
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Dec 20, 2015 19:13:04 GMT
Exit poll excellent news for anyone who wanted chaos.
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 20, 2015 19:53:03 GMT
Latest exit polls are putting Podemos second.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 20, 2015 19:55:53 GMT
If the final results are close to those predicted by the exit polls, what remotely feasible government could emerge from them, especially given how much the four largest Spanish parties differ?
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 20, 2015 19:58:39 GMT
Lowest share of the vote for PSOE since the restoration of democracy .
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 20:06:45 GMT
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 20:15:45 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 20, 2015 20:16:07 GMT
Also leading in Asturias, the Basque country, Valencia and Galicia. |
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Post by bolbridge on Dec 20, 2015 20:19:48 GMT
Most realistic right now is a deal involving Sanchez as PM, with Podemos, ERC, IU, EHV and probably PNV, DiL involved somehow. A total mess
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 20, 2015 20:20:07 GMT
Who is leading where is perhaps not massively important (even if not uninteresting) when the vote is as laughably fragmented as this. But anyway: voters choose chaos.
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Post by bolbridge on Dec 20, 2015 20:20:51 GMT
Although Podemos' Catalan coalition is I think ambiguous on Indy |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 20, 2015 20:35:44 GMT
Loving the six way marginal of Tarragona
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 20:44:14 GMT
Spain elections - a third of the vote counted:
PP 27% (121 seats)
PSOE 23% (95)
Podemos 20.5% (68)
C’s 12% (31)
(Copied from Alberto Nardelli)
If it stays like this that's a disaster for the C's & in turn the PP.
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 20:57:48 GMT
Alberto Nardelli @albertonardelli 3m3 minutes ago
Spain - 55% counted:
PP 28% (124 seats)
PSOE 23% (96)
Podemos 20.5% (69)
C’s 13% (32)
PP+C’s (156), PSOE+Podemos (165). Majority 176 #20D
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 21:06:15 GMT
It's now 161 to 160.
I reckon though that PP plus C's need to be nearer 170 to stand any chance of forming a government.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 20, 2015 21:18:52 GMT
Loving the six way marginal of Tarragona
Especially with only 8.3% dividing the top six parties (where PP is sixth, by the way, this being in Catalonia). We can probably find a few others.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 20, 2015 21:41:35 GMT
Looks like the city of Madrid will end up being the only remaining community to have any United Left (IU) deputies in the Cortes.
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Post by dizz on Dec 20, 2015 21:53:04 GMT
It's now 161 to 160. I reckon though that PP plus C's need to be nearer 170 to stand any chance of forming a government. It's now 162:160 to PP & C's. Some seats desperately close - PP are on 3 in Granada with PSOE on 2 & only 400 votes in it..... |
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