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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 31, 2015 7:19:56 GMT
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Post by neilm on Jan 31, 2015 9:48:38 GMT
There is also a regional election in Andalucia on the 22nd March. This is a PSOE heartland. If they can fight off Podemos it will reinvigorate them. Regional elections in Madrid looming also.
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Post by bolbridge on Jan 31, 2015 10:46:30 GMT
The possibility of SYRIZA at some point winning had been priced into the markets from 2012. Podemos are a much more recent (and worrying) phenomenon.
The PSOE face the real prospect of becoming the next PASOK.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 31, 2015 14:57:42 GMT
The possibility of SYRIZA at some point winning had been priced into the markets from 2012. Podemos are a much more recent (and worrying) phenomenon. The PSOE face the real prospect of becoming the next PASOK. I had no idea until today that the two main parties in Spain were in a state of semi-collapse in terms of their poll ratings. It's good that the situation there is finally making the news over here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 15:24:08 GMT
There is also a regional election in Andalucia on the 22nd March. This is a PSOE heartland. If they can fight off Podemos it will reinvigorate them. Regional elections in Madrid looming also. Podemos are only at about 15% in the polls for the regional election. PSOE haven't advanced since 2011.. which I think was the first time they lost control of Andalucia? Although they'll win as the PP and Left are down. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 31, 2015 15:31:25 GMT
2012. They hold power with the IU. I won't be voting PP that's for sure. Actually, I need to check where I need to go to vote as I've never exercised my vote in La Linea before.
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Post by bolbridge on Jan 31, 2015 15:46:29 GMT
2012. They hold power with the IU. I won't be voting PP that's for sure. Actually, I need to check where I need to go to vote as I've never exercised my vote in La Linea before. Why won't you be voting PP and who is preferable in Spain? |
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Post by neilm on Jan 31, 2015 15:56:21 GMT
Socially authoritarian and I don't like their stance on Gibraltar- they don't care that they're hurting their own people. UPyD for me right now- had I a vote in Catalonia I'd probably plump for Mas' outfit. Neither are a perfect fit with me (especially on the EU) but the PP is a certain no no.
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Post by bolbridge on Jan 31, 2015 18:54:33 GMT
Socially authoritarian and I don't like their stance on Gibraltar- they don't care that they're hurting their own people. UPyD for me right now- had I a vote in Catalonia I'd probably plump for Mas' outfit. Neither are a perfect fit with me (especially on the EU) but the PP is a certain no no. What is UPyD's stance on Gibraltar? I would find it hard at the moment - I've always been sympathetic to UPyD although the CDC (who hate UPyD of course) have closer links to the Lib Dems. That said I'd much rather a PP led government than one involving Podemos. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 31, 2015 19:07:16 GMT
Note that in Greece the party that polls the most votes gains fifty extra seats for free (which made it easier for SYRIZA to win power; ironic given the original purpose of the law, which was to prevent Marxists from participation in government), which is not the case in Spain. Podemos can win the election and still not win it.
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Post by bolbridge on Jan 31, 2015 21:56:50 GMT
Note that in Greece the party that polls the most votes gains fifty extra seats for free (which made it easier for SYRIZA to win power; ironic given the original purpose of the law, which was to prevent Marxists from participation in government), which is not the case in Spain. Podemos can win the election and still not win it. Although smaller parties are generally punished more by the regional allocation of seats than by Greece's pure PR (before the extra seats are added). |
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Post by neilm on Mar 7, 2015 12:55:01 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 7, 2015 17:48:15 GMT
Given that the PP is to the right and has a virtual monopoly on the right wing vote outside Catalonia (and the CiU simply won't work with them nationally because of the history) its notable just how much they have collapsed - more so than the PSOE. The next Spanish parliament is likely to have a considerable left wing majority
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Post by bolbridge on Mar 16, 2015 8:42:45 GMT
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Post by bolbridge on Mar 16, 2015 10:32:53 GMT
It's disappointing to see that UPyD are being squeezed by the rise of Ciudadanos / Ciutadans, as they have been doggedly promoting the same agenda for the best part of ten years, in a more thoughtful and less rabble-rousing manner. It's a mirror image of how Izquierda Unida is being squeezed out by Podemos on the left. It's pleasing however to see Podemos being squeezed by the rise of Cs  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 16, 2015 18:53:59 GMT
Basically Spanish voters are desperately looking around for alternatives at present. God knows who'll poll surge next.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 16, 2015 23:05:49 GMT
Basically Spanish voters are desperately looking around for alternatives at present. God knows who'll poll surge next. The Carlists are still going. |
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 16, 2015 23:50:42 GMT
Basically Spanish voters are desperately looking around for alternatives at present. God knows who'll poll surge next. The Carlists are still going. Viva el rey. |
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Mar 23, 2015 0:26:34 GMT
The Carlists are still going. Viva el rey. They are not a fan of him. Unless you mean Cristo el Rey and his divine inquisition. |
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Post by bolbridge on Apr 6, 2015 10:47:29 GMT
I can't give you the exact details, but two UPyD MEPs have been expelled from the party over links with C's.
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