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Post by greenchristian on Jul 6, 2024 14:25:50 GMT
As a revert myself, I could probably beat Streeting here. What made you conclude that you had been born a Muslim, and what made you decide to convert to Islam? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 15:54:18 GMT
As a revert myself, I could probably beat Streeting here. What made you conclude that you had been born a Muslim, and what made you decide to convert to Islam? Marriage, and 'revert' is what the Pakistanis I know prefer to say instead of 'convert'. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 15:58:55 GMT
There are not that many openly gay Muslims (note that I'm not saying there aren't (many or) any gay muslims). As a revert myself, I could probably beat Streeting here. If Wes took shahada and converted, many would not accept him into the faith because he is out LGBT, I'm sorry to say. Many Muslims won't vote for a gay man. Does this result mean Streeting has the largest Muslim electorate of any out-of-the-closet LGBT MP in the country? How long has that been the case? He should have run away from this bigoted constituency to Leyton, Kim Leadbeater smartly did the same thing in Batley even if the constituency she moved to was much less labour inclined on paper (Reform and the Tories both received 24% in her new constituency this election, so she’s probably going to be in trouble in 2029, but at least she can be a lesbian woman with opinions of her own without the threat of violence) I tend to think Streeting's LGBT profile is priced in - it was much more to do with Starmer's infamous interview with Nick Ferrari than Muslim voters suddenly turning on an openly gay MP, whose homosexuality has been public knowledge for years. It's easy to write off Leanne's near miss as homophobia, but have you considered that many voters here just want a Muslim MP. regardless of the white British MP's sexual orientation. Identity politics doesn't always mean people are homophobic and many people here saw the positive case for a British Palestinian MP, who hasn't been in the job for going on 10 years. |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 6, 2024 16:04:44 GMT
He should have run away from this bigoted constituency to Leyton, Kim Leadbeater smartly did the same thing in Batley even if the constituency she moved to was much less labour inclined on paper (Reform and the Tories both received 24% in her new constituency this election, so she’s probably going to be in trouble in 2029, but at least she can be a lesbian woman with opinions of her own without the threat of violence) I tend to think Streeting's LGBT profile is priced in - it was much more to do with Starmer's infamous interview with Nick Ferrari than Muslim voters suddenly turning on an openly gay MP, whose homosexuality has been public knowledge for years. It's easy to write off Leanne's near miss as homophobia, but have you considered that many voters here just want a Muslim MP. regardless of the white British MP's sexual orientation. Identity politics doesn't always mean people are homophobic and many people here saw the positive case for a British Palestinian MP, who hasn't been in the job for going on 10 years. I’m not blaming the near miss on homophobia, I’m just saying that being an openly LGBT MP in a constituency with a large Muslim population must be very hard, and having a couple of extremists threatening you and accusing you of things because of your sexual attraction has to take a toll on the mental health of Streeting and his loved ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 16:08:01 GMT
I tend to think Streeting's LGBT profile is priced in - it was much more to do with Starmer's infamous interview with Nick Ferrari than Muslim voters suddenly turning on an openly gay MP, whose homosexuality has been public knowledge for years. It's easy to write off Leanne's near miss as homophobia, but have you considered that many voters here just want a Muslim MP. regardless of the white British MP's sexual orientation. Identity politics doesn't always mean people are homophobic and many people here saw the positive case for a British Palestinian MP, who hasn't been in the job for going on 10 years. I’m not blaming the near miss on homophobia, I’m just saying that being an openly LGBT MP in a constituency with a large Muslim population must be very hard, and having a couple of extremists threatening you and accusing you of things because of your sexual attraction has to take a toll on the mental health of Streeting and his loved ones. I'd imagine so, and there's a reason Lee Scott stopped standing here for the Tories. Yes, I'd be shocked if Streeting contests this seat in 2029 given the changes. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 6, 2024 16:18:29 GMT
He should have run away from this bigoted constituency to Leyton, Kim Leadbeater smartly did the same thing in Batley even if the constituency she moved to was much less labour inclined on paper (Reform and the Tories both received 24% in her new constituency this election, so she’s probably going to be in trouble in 2029, but at least she can be a lesbian woman with opinions of her own without the threat of violence) I tend to think Streeting's LGBT profile is priced in - it was much more to do with Starmer's infamous interview with Nick Ferrari than Muslim voters suddenly turning on an openly gay MP, whose homosexuality has been public knowledge for years. It's easy to write off Leanne's near miss as homophobia, but have you considered that many voters here just want a Muslim MP. regardless of the white British MP's sexual orientation. Identity politics doesn't always mean people are homophobic and many people here saw the positive case for a British Palestinian MP, who hasn't been in the job for going on 10 years. This is, in of itself, a problem. This sort of naked sectarianism must be crushed. |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 6, 2024 16:21:06 GMT
I’m not blaming the near miss on homophobia, I’m just saying that being an openly LGBT MP in a constituency with a large Muslim population must be very hard, and having a couple of extremists threatening you and accusing you of things because of your sexual attraction has to take a toll on the mental health of Streeting and his loved ones. I'd imagine so, and there's a reason Lee Scott stopped standing here for the Tories. Yes, I'd be shocked if Streeting contests this seat in 2029 given the changes. Streeting’s problem is that he’s a moderate, Christian, working class lad from an area of the country where the base is non-white working folk (and now that both Barking and Dagenham are filled, he can’t even switch to the constituencies with high black Christian working class populations), and white hipsters. While I think that he’s probably safe in 2029, the best case scenario for him is Creasy retiring in 2029 and him encouraging the new Leyton MP to move to her constituency so that he could take Leyton for himself (Walthamstow seems like a bad ideological fit for him, and while Leyton & Wanstead isn’t perfect, he would at least still be able to remain in Redbridge). |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 6, 2024 16:31:03 GMT
I tend to think Streeting's LGBT profile is priced in - it was much more to do with Starmer's infamous interview with Nick Ferrari than Muslim voters suddenly turning on an openly gay MP, whose homosexuality has been public knowledge for years. It's easy to write off Leanne's near miss as homophobia, but have you considered that many voters here just want a Muslim MP. regardless of the white British MP's sexual orientation. Identity politics doesn't always mean people are homophobic and many people here saw the positive case for a British Palestinian MP, who hasn't been in the job for going on 10 years. This is, in of itself, a problem. This sort of naked sectarianism must be crushed. You support Alliance in NI, then, I presume? |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 6, 2024 16:38:37 GMT
This is, in of itself, a problem. This sort of naked sectarianism must be crushed. You support Alliance in NI, then, I presume? No, I support the UUP and the inclusive and moderate leadership of Doug Beattie. |
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Post by birkinabe on Jul 9, 2024 19:31:36 GMT
2019 Conservative voters, possibly tactically voting against Mohamad, seem to have saved Streeting from decapitation here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 4:25:00 GMT
2019 Conservative voters, possibly tactically voting against Mohamad, seem to have saved Streeting from decapitation here. Labour majority: 528 (1.2%) Green vote: 1,794 (3.8%) 2015 majority: 589 (1.2%); 2024 lead: 528 (1.2%). Streeting got the exact same majority but over an Independent and not a Tory. If Reform had done a bit better around Hainault, the independent could've won. |
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