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Post by Strontium Dog on Jul 23, 2024 14:33:52 GMT
The fact that Shaheen stood as an independent proves that she was absolutely not committed to Labour and the party are better off without her. And I would also suspect that Starmer is happier with IDS winning that seat than adding another member of the awkward squad to his backbenches.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 23, 2024 17:03:21 GMT
No. Not at all. It worked so very well. Wait until too late to select and impose from the centre and totally rain on her parade. Brilliant piece of work. Loved it. Yes, they dragged out the suspension in order to impose Tatler but I guess they didn't calculate Faiza standing and how successful she would be. But she wasn't successful was she? She was an uber-narcissist who thought she would win. But she came third behind Labour as a Lefty Splitter letting the Conservatives hold the seat. She didn't win. She wasn't second. That isn't success. That is being an annoying little spoiler jerk off. Nobody likes them do they? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 23, 2024 18:00:59 GMT
I'd say the opposite, to me that further begs the question why the party took so long to investigate and suspend her candidacy Sometimes it's more fun to serve up these dishes cold.  who had the dish served cold? and who was serving it? IDS? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 23, 2024 18:02:29 GMT
Yes, they dragged out the suspension in order to impose Tatler but I guess they didn't calculate Faiza standing and how successful she would be. But she wasn't successful was she? She was an uber-narcissist who thought she would win. But she came third behind Labour as a Lefty Splitter letting the Conservatives hold the seat. She didn't win. She wasn't second. That isn't success. That is being an annoying little spoiler jerk off. Nobody likes them do they? I think they mean that Labour didn't expect Faiza to peel enough votes away from Labour to literally split the vote in half |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 23, 2024 18:16:32 GMT
The fact that Shaheen stood as an independent proves that she was absolutely not committed to Labour and the party are better off without her. And I would also suspect that Starmer is happier with IDS winning that seat than adding another member of the awkward squad to his backbenches. I would agree with you, there unfortunately are too few people who do take things on the chin and instead decide they are going stand anyway. Loyalty isn't a trait of many people. And actually even though IDS is a politician I disagree with on many things I think he's more of a elder statesmen figures and pretty harmless now. I think whether we'd prefer loyalty on our benches to Tories and defectors when deselected, our benches would be pretty empty. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 23, 2024 19:27:17 GMT
After tonight's action in the Commons, would a Faiza Shaheen MP have even still been in the parliamentary party?
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Post by stb12 on Jul 23, 2024 20:02:15 GMT
I think her independent campaign was better than most expected but nevertheless Labour clearly decided it was worth the risk
They didn’t need the seat for a majority or even to make the majority a more comfortable one, and as I’ve said before while IDS would have been a satisfying scalp for many still due to his association with welfare reform it can’t really be as meaningful when he’s been out of government for so long now
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Post by batman on Jul 23, 2024 20:37:17 GMT
After tonight's action in the Commons, would a Faiza Shaheen MP have even still been in the parliamentary party? no |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 23, 2024 21:58:12 GMT
I get the i pression that Faiza Shaheen is so big-headed that she actually thought she would win, not just having the pleasure of enabling the defeat of an opponent in the way that some minor parties would do. Incidentally, when we were at the count we watched a bit of the declaration on the big TV in the side-room; the subtitles were on, and her name came up as “Pfizer”Further proof that some of the people who do the subtitling must be on drugs.  What John clearly means is that the common pronunciation of Pfizer to rhyme with Tizer (and therefore also with Faiza) in incorrect, since the former is a German brand while the latter is very much for the consumption of our domestic market only. As for synthetic drugs: no little blue pills needed here when Shaheen did that Newsnight interview.  |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 25, 2024 10:05:51 GMT
After tonight's action in the Commons, would a Faiza Shaheen MP have even still been in the parliamentary party? no Actually I quite strongly suspect that as a newly elected *Labour* MP, discretion would have got the better part of valour and an abstention thus resulted. |
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Post by edgbaston on Sept 3, 2024 21:52:30 GMT
The BBC love Faiza Shaheen this is the 5th time I’ve seen her on Newsnight since the election and I far from watch it every day.
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Post by mattbewilson on Sept 3, 2024 21:56:43 GMT
The BBC love Faiza Shaheen this is the 5th time I’ve seen her on Newsnight since the election and I far from watch it every day. don't watch it then |
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Post by edgbaston on Sept 3, 2024 21:59:21 GMT
The BBC love Faiza Shaheen this is the 5th time I’ve seen her on Newsnight since the election and I far from watch it every day. don't watch it then She by no means ruins the program for me, that’s a very passive aggressive reply. I just think it’s interesting, for all the extensive media coverage she was just an independent that came third. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Sept 3, 2024 22:05:59 GMT
She by no means ruins the program for me, that’s a very passive aggressive reply. I just think it’s interesting, for all the extensive media coverage she was just an independent that came third. I don't mean to come across that way. I just have never noticed it but then I don't watch the BBC. Just seemed like a solution to me |
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