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Post by marksenior on Nov 18, 2016 9:58:53 GMT
Count has just started in Annandale North
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Post by froome on Nov 18, 2016 10:01:26 GMT
Both the Tory and Green literature in Bath pushed the idea that the Lib Dems were out of it, and I suspect that hurt the LD vote. And of course the LD literature said the same about us.  I met a few definite Green voters who said they plumped for the Lib Dems in the end to 'get rid of the Tories'. Although disappointed at the actual result, I'm quite encouraged by it as well, our vote held up far better than it has in many by-elections around the country and leaves us in a good position for future elections here. |
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Post by mboy on Nov 18, 2016 10:11:45 GMT
Both the Tory and Green literature in Bath pushed the idea that the Lib Dems were out of it, and I suspect that hurt the LD vote. . I met a few definite Green voters who said they plumped for the Lib Dems in the end to 'get rid of the Tories'. Yeh, the difference is that those saying it was between the Lib Dem and Tories were telling the truth, as the result shows  |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 10:57:18 GMT
And of course the LD literature said the same about us. I met a few definite Green voters who said they plumped for the Lib Dems in the end to 'get rid of the Tories'. Yeh, the difference is that those saying it was between the Lib Dem and Tories were telling the truth, as the result shows Ah! The sweetness of a dawning recognition! Now YOU know what it feels like. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 18, 2016 11:03:14 GMT
Annandale North votes verified 3,588; turnout 33.6%.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 11:50:08 GMT
Bath results cons 350, lib dems 273, green 252, lab 126 Congratulations Greens and Labour. Good performance. Many thanks. |
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Nov 18, 2016 12:19:34 GMT
The Lib Dems did win Abbey ward in 1999 although the boundaries were slightly different - part of Conservative Bathwick ward was added to Abbey ward . The last boundary changes in B&NES were in 1998, so the ward boundaries have been the same since 1999. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:27:12 GMT
The Tories are clearly polling ahead at the Annandale North count. Labour don't seem to be doing too badly either. Excellent result and if Labour are second good for my competition projection and good as regards the SNP. Stunning night. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:32:38 GMT
Come on Theresa time for a snap GE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 12:32:47 GMT
No requirement for preferences?
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Post by marksenior on Nov 18, 2016 12:34:37 GMT
Come on Theresa time for a snap GE. Why and How ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 12:34:53 GMT
Come on Theresa time for a snap GE. If there is going to be a "snap" GE it will be next May. |
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Post by A Brown on Nov 18, 2016 12:37:39 GMT
No real surprise in the Mundell heartland there.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Nov 18, 2016 12:39:14 GMT
Any relation to Sir Nicholas? |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:42:19 GMT
Come on Theresa time for a snap GE. Why and How ? To get a fresh mandate on new prospectus. To steam out last vestiges of Cameroonism. To ease out some malcontents. To get a larger majority. To put in a Lords Reform Bill to manifesto. To validate the Brexit policy. To take advantage of current Labour weakness. To take advantage of other paries shortage of funds. To take advantage of public mood. To get in again before the LDs improve position further week by week. To take advantage of UKIP dissolution. By calling one on any pretext that can be made effective. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:42:57 GMT
Come on Theresa time for a snap GE. The psephologist in me says YES, but of course that shouldn't happen. Why not? |
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Post by marksenior on Nov 18, 2016 12:46:35 GMT
To get a fresh mandate on new prospectus. To steam out last vestiges of Cameroonism. To ease out some malcontents. To get a larger majority. To put in a Lords Reform Bill to manifesto. To validate the Brexit policy. To take advantage of current Labour weakness. To take advantage of other paries shortage of funds. To take advantage of public mood. To get in again before the LDs improve position further week by week. To take advantage of UKIP dissolution. By calling one on any pretext that can be made effective. Ok so summing up putting Conservative Party before country but How ? Incidentally , the 2 parties currently short of funds are the Conservatives and especially UKIP . Labour and Lib Dem funds are relatively healthy . |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:52:43 GMT
It's completely unnecessary? And could, if anything, harm the fragile project of rebuilding the Conservatives in Scotland. On the other hand seeing the SNP losing a bundle of their constituencies would bring me a great deal of joy. I am thinking of a wider picture. The majority is narrow and there are too many malcontents in both houses. We need to sort out the HOL very quickly. We need to be able to rely upon a new set of policies in a new manifesto validated by a bigger majority. It re-sets the clock to 2016/17 and thus an expected next GE in 2021/22 well after the exit from EU and matters have settled down again. This is bigger and more important than just Scotland. |
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Post by marksenior on Nov 18, 2016 12:55:01 GMT
It's completely unnecessary? And could, if anything, harm the fragile project of rebuilding the Conservatives in Scotland. On the other hand seeing the SNP losing a bundle of their constituencies would bring me a great deal of joy. I am thinking of a wider picture. The majority is narrow and there are too many malcontents in both houses. We need to sort out the HOL very quickly. We need to be able to rely upon a new set of policies in a new manifesto validated by a bigger majority. It re-sets the clock to 2016/17 and thus an expected next GE in 2021/22 well after the exit from EU and matters have settled down again. This is bigger and more important than just Scotland. Yes But HOW  ?? |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 18, 2016 12:57:28 GMT
I am thinking of a wider picture. The majority is narrow and there are too many malcontents in both houses. We need to sort out the HOL very quickly. We need to be able to rely upon a new set of policies in a new manifesto validated by a bigger majority. It re-sets the clock to 2016/17 and thus an expected next GE in 2021/22 well after the exit from EU and matters have settled down again. This is bigger and more important than just Scotland. Yes But HOW ?? Not my field and not really my concern. I have no doubt it can be engineered with real determination to have one. |
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I met a few definite Green voters who said they plumped for the Lib Dems in the end to 'get rid of the Tories'.
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