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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 10:18:29 GMT
Not everyone has a car, especially in cities and large towns. Bleat, bleat, bleat! You are like a teenaged lamb. No one has difficulty getting to the Bingo or the Football Stadium or the Supermarket, or home from the back street night club in the small hours, but out come all these bleeding heart nonsense statements as soon as we talk about voting. Perhaps we should have council officials who personally call at the door after giving written prior advice and a reminder telephone call? Perhaps each elector should be given an M&S Voucher for £5 for having his vote ready to be collected? Perhaps those who could not be bothered to be in that evening should be permitted to ask for a call on another day that suits them better? £5 ?! Is that in old money, Carlton, you can't get owt for a fiver at M&S these days! |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2016 11:02:28 GMT
Bleat, bleat, bleat! You are like a teenaged lamb. No one has difficulty getting to the Bingo or the Football Stadium or the Supermarket, or home from the back street night club in the small hours, but out come all these bleeding heart nonsense statements as soon as we talk about voting. Perhaps we should have council officials who personally call at the door after giving written prior advice and a reminder telephone call? Perhaps each elector should be given an M&S Voucher for £5 for having his vote ready to be collected? Perhaps those who could not be bothered to be in that evening should be permitted to ask for a call on another day that suits them better? £5 ?! Is that in old money, Carlton, you can't get owt for a fiver at M&S these days! I am surprised you use it Dok. It was always too expensive especially for food. I maintain M&S is an expensive way of eating over-priced factory prepared trendy food of yester-decade! It is the fact of a token that matters, not the value. Many people go out of their way to eat at Pub Chain A because there is a token for a set-price meal and glass of awful red wine a pound or so cheaper than a much better meal elsewhere. People are very token led. I bin all tokens, all junk mail, all inserts to my RT and other mags without looking at them, because I do not want to have any external influence to my own pragmatic decisions. I also refuse all warranty extensions and all product insurance for everything on the simple basis that if they can pay out on all claims and support a call centre and bear the admin costs and make a profit it is obviously a very bum deal. I was much struck when working briefly embedded at Lloyds insurance market to learn that BP gave up on taking any Hull Insurance at all on the Tanker Fleet because the premiums p.a. were crudely the cost of one and a half tankers and the past 30-year average loss was only three-quarters of one tanker! What is the price of fish and chips for one and for a pint of ordinary real ale bitter in a standard pub in Preston? |
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Post by greenchristian on Nov 17, 2016 11:06:01 GMT
The majority of votes will already have been cast by post, and the Party best organised on talking to postal voters will probably win.... Or the most organised party at collecting in postal voting forms, filling them in and handing them in........... Saves you all the hassle mr/mrs/miss voter just sign on the back here to say you voted we will do the rest.  I didn't think party workers were allowed to hand in somebody else's postal vote for them. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2016 11:08:59 GMT
Or the most organised party at collecting in postal voting forms, filling them in and handing them in........... Saves you all the hassle mr/mrs/miss voter just sign on the back here to say you voted we will do the rest. I didn't think party workers were allowed to hand in somebody else's postal vote for them. No, O' simple one. They collect, complete, envelop, seal and then post as in the pivotal word 'postal'!!! |
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Post by greenchristian on Nov 17, 2016 11:31:15 GMT
I didn't think party workers were allowed to hand in somebody else's postal vote for them. No, O' simple one. They collect, complete, envelop, seal and then post as in the pivotal word 'postal'!!! Which I also understand to be something that they are not allowed to do. I probably should have worded my first post as "not allowed to handle" somebody's postal vote. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 11:43:45 GMT
£5 ?! Is that in old money, Carlton, you can't get owt for a fiver at M&S these days! I am surprised you use it Dok. It was always too expensive especially for food. I maintain M&S is an expensive way of eating over-priced factory prepared trendy food of yester-decade! It is the fact of a token that matters, not the value. Many people go out of their way to eat at Pub Chain A because there is a token for a set-price meal and glass of awful red wine a pound or so cheaper than a much better meal elsewhere. People are very token led. I bin all tokens, all junk mail, all inserts to my RT and other mags without looking at them, because I do not want to have any external influence to my own pragmatic decisions. I also refuse all warranty extensions and all product insurance for everything on the simple basis that if they can pay out on all claims and support a call centre and bear the admin costs and make a profit it is obviously a very bum deal. I was much struck when working briefly embedded at Lloyds insurance market to learn that BP gave up on taking any Hull Insurance at all on the Tanker Fleet because the premiums p.a. were crudely the cost of one and a half tankers and the past 30-year average loss was only three-quarters of one tanker! What is the price of fish and chips for one and for a pint of ordinary real ale bitter in a standard pub in Preston? Taking out of the equation Wetherspoons branded pubs, I've just checked the menu of The Adelphi, right in the middle of student town, and their on-line menu charges £6.49 for fish and chips on its own. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2016 12:08:11 GMT
No, O' simple one. They collect, complete, envelop, seal and then post as in the pivotal word 'postal'!!! Which I also understand to be something that they are not allowed to do. I probably should have worded my first post as "not allowed to handle" somebody's postal vote. Well of course it is not permitted. we all know that! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 17, 2016 12:44:56 GMT
How sad. I shall be reporting you to a moderator. Get away...........................Mr. 27-Posts. Get some service in. Bleat! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 17, 2016 12:47:50 GMT
No, O' simple one. They collect, complete, envelop, seal and then post as in the pivotal word 'postal'!!! Which I also understand to be something that they are not allowed to do. I probably should have worded my first post as "not allowed to handle" somebody's postal vote. Yes they are. But it's discouraged. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2016 12:50:14 GMT
Get away...........................Mr. 27-Posts. Get some service in. Bleat! No, it isn't. Riposte, rejection, rebuke, rudeness, dismissal, joke, flippancy, superiority, interjection and remark...........the by tone, context, intention and manner....not a bleat. I know about bleating. I am surrounded by the bleaters! EDIT We have been politely asked to desist. I forgot but shall now do so. |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 17, 2016 17:28:37 GMT
Which I also understand to be something that they are not allowed to do. I probably should have worded my first post as "not allowed to handle" somebody's postal vote. Yes they are. But it's discouraged. You can hand your postal vote sealed in its two envelopes to anyone to post, hand in at the electoral office or at a polling station.. the security is matching the signature. However a political activist handing in 30 postal votes at once would be viewed with suspicion.. Filling in someone else's postal vote for them is illegal of course! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 17, 2016 17:39:29 GMT
Yes they are. But it's discouraged. You can hand your postal vote sealed in its two envelopes to anyone to post, hand in at the electoral office or at a polling station.. the security is matching the signature. However a political activist handing in 30 postal votes at once would be viewed with suspicion.. Filling in someone else's postal vote for them is illegal of course! I believe that the voluntary Code of Conduct, signed up to by all the major parties, says that candidates and agents {possibly extends to party activists} should avoid handling postal ballots. This prompted a characteristically chippy exchange between myself and election officers a few years ago when they announced at an election briefing that we would all have to sign up to the "voluntary" Code. I asked if they understood the meaning of "voluntary" and what sanction would apply if we didn't sign up. "We'll come back to you to clarify that" They never did.  My personal view is that if Mrs C of X Street (who has known me for years and trusts me in her home) phones me up and asks me to help complete and post her pv I'll do so. If somebody wants to think badly of me then so be it. (And I speak as someone who once arranged someone a pv, then went round to help him complete it, watched him vote BNP, at which point he said "Can you take this in for me?" I did, of course.) |
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2016 20:31:36 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Nov 17, 2016 23:04:01 GMT
You can hand your postal vote sealed in its two envelopes to anyone to post, hand in at the electoral office or at a polling station.. the security is matching the signature. However a political activist handing in 30 postal votes at once would be viewed with suspicion.. Filling in someone else's postal vote for them is illegal of course! I believe that the voluntary Code of Conduct, signed up to by all the major parties, says that candidates and agents {possibly extends to party activists} should avoid handling postal ballots. This prompted a characteristically chippy exchange between myself and election officers a few years ago when they announced at an election briefing that we would all have to sign up to the "voluntary" Code. I asked if they understood the meaning of "voluntary" and what sanction would apply if we didn't sign up. "We'll come back to you to clarify that" They never did. My personal view is that if Mrs C of X Street (who has known me for years and trusts me in her home) phones me up and asks me to help complete and post her pv I'll do so. If somebody wants to think badly of me then so be it. (And I speak as someone who once arranged someone a pv, then went round to help him complete it, watched him vote BNP, at which point he said "Can you take this in for me?" I did, of course.) Also raises an "interesting" dilemma in our house where I'm usually Agent to our Council candidate, but have been housebound with a degenerative disability since 1996 (my 20 year anniversary on Saturday incidentally) and thus require a postal vote, but I live with my mum, who, until last year was Vice Chair of our Branch, thus meeting the criteria of Party activist. To be safe I have to give my PV to my Auntie who's a member of Newcastle-under-Lyme Conservatives.... |
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Nov 17, 2016 23:12:27 GMT
Misterton (Harborough) Result
Conservative 257
Lab 119
LD 77
UKIP 57
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2016 23:21:03 GMT
Misterton (Harborough) result:
CON: 50.4% (-24.7)
LAB: 23.3% (-1.6)
LDEM: 15.1% (+15.1)
UKIP: 11.2% (+11.2)
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2016 23:21:29 GMT
Conservative HOLD Haldens (Welwyn Hatfield).
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2016 23:30:11 GMT
Haldens (Welwyn Hatfield) result:
CON: 34.1% (-1.3)
LAB: 30.8% (-6.9)
LDEM: 29.6% (+17.8)
GRN: 5.5% (-9.5)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 17, 2016 23:31:43 GMT
In numbers:
Nathaniel Chapman (The Conservative Party Candidate) 502
Astrid Thorpe (Labour Party) 454
Anthony Dennis (Liberal Democrats) 437
Lynne Allison (The Green Party candidate) 81
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Post by mboy on Nov 17, 2016 23:34:14 GMT
Damn. Close.
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