Sharon
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Post by Sharon on May 7, 2017 22:37:01 GMT
Just 4 left to declare:
Yvelines
Paris
Rhône
Bouches-du-Rhône
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on May 7, 2017 22:42:15 GMT
Right... they do know who the Vichy lovers in this election were don't they? Of course they do. Take them back 80 years and Leave.EU types would be BUF sympathisers... The Front National are the ones advocating surrendering France's independence to the German Chancellor this time are they? Nope. In 1940 it was Vichy who surrendered France's Independence to the German Chancellor, now its Macron. I've no doubt that the Front National would prostrate themselves in front of the big European strongman should they ever win power. The only difference from their Vichy forebears is that the strongman is Russian not German. |
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Post by AdminSTB on May 7, 2017 22:42:35 GMT
Yvelines is in 77,15 Macron
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on May 7, 2017 22:43:55 GMT
Just 4 left to declare: Yvelines ParisRhône Bouches-du-Rhône Only 1 Arrondissement left to declare, the 12th, and Macron has won the rest of them, I just wonder what the percentages will be for France's capital city. |
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Post by independentukip on May 7, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
Nope. Macron takes Var with 50.85% so Le Pen ends up with two only. So MLP loses Haute Marne: 50.48% Corse du Sud: 50.59% Ardennes: 50.73% Var: 50.85% Meuse: 51.62% by a narrower margin than she wins PdC (52.05%). She'll be a bit miffed one suspects. Rather more likely she'll be buoyed up by the strong prospect for success in these areas on June 18th. Though to be honest I don't know how the Presidential results will have impacted on existing predictions for the Assembly. |
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on May 7, 2017 22:46:36 GMT
Rhône 73.58% for Macron
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Post by AdminSTB on May 7, 2017 22:46:51 GMT
High 80's at a guess, probably 88-89.
Rhône is in 73,58% Macron
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on May 7, 2017 22:47:59 GMT
So just the 2 big cities to go, Paris & Marseille in Bouches-du-Rhône. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 22:48:01 GMT
85% in Hauts-de-Seine wherever that is! how low can she go! probably 10% in paris? Mostly affluent western suburbs of Paris with a few grotty areas at either end |
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Post by finsobruce on May 7, 2017 22:50:03 GMT
Right... they do know who the Vichy lovers in this election were don't they? Of course they do. Take them back 80 years and Leave.EU types would be BUF sympathisers... The Front National are the ones advocating surrendering France's independence to the German Chancellor this time are they? Nope. In 1940 it was Vichy who surrendered France's Independence to the German Chancellor, now its Macron. And who is more likely to venerate the memory of Vichy I wonder? Not Macron , I would wager. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 22:59:46 GMT
Le Pen has tried to tie the FN into the Gaullist-republican tradition and has made comments rejecting Vichy (including the notorious one that the deportation of Jews in WW2 was not the responsibility of France because Vichy was illegitimate). This has certainly allowed her to make bigger inroads into non-traditional FN demographics but hasn't been anywhere near enough to persuade most voters that the FN is not still fundamentally hostile to what might be deemed the core values of the republic.
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Post by ccoleman on May 7, 2017 23:12:05 GMT
Good job, France. The UK remains the village idiot for the time being. And yes, this is definitely not in our national interest given Macron will team up with Merkel to push for an unfavourable deal. That's just too damn bad.  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 7, 2017 23:22:03 GMT
Good job, France. The UK remains the village idiot for the time being. And yes, this is definitely not in our national interest given Macron will team up with Merkel to push for an unfavourable deal. That's just too damn bad. If you ask AdminSTB he'll give you your Lib Dem colours |
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2017 23:22:29 GMT
Is this a spoof or is it genuine?
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Post by Richard Allen on May 7, 2017 23:22:58 GMT
And yes, this is definitely not in our national interest given Macron will team up with Merkel to push for an unfavourable deal. That's just too damn bad. At the risk of going off topic this is complete nonsense. Merkel will not push for an unfavourable deal because that would not be in Germany's interests and she is above all else a pragmatist. I suspect that Macron will go the same way once in office. The problem we face is not that other EU leaders are particular hostile to us, but that our Prime Minister is so utterly clueless that she will miss the opportunities open to her and end up with a bad deal, or perhaps no deal, through her own pig headed stupidity. |
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Post by Khunanup on May 7, 2017 23:28:50 GMT
Right... they do know who the Vichy lovers in this election were don't they? Of course they do. Take them back 80 years and Leave.EU types would be BUF sympathisers... Oh and as for your point about the BUF I would point out, for the record, that the first British servicemen killed in World War Two, Ken Day and George Brocking (killed on the second day of the war) were member of the BUF. The BUF at no point advocated surrender to Germany, quite the reverse, and there was never any evidence of BUF members being traitors during the war. That's even if one were to accept the highly questionable notion that "Leave.EU types" would have been BUF supporters in the 1930s. This is presumably based on Leave.eu being right wing and nationalistic. However it hardly follows from that they would have been BUF supporters. Winston Churchill was not only right wing and nationalistic but he was a lifelong supporter of the idea of white supremacism and I need hardly remind you that he was an opponent of British surrender, and opponent of Vichy and never a BUF supporter. We're talking about the British Union of Fascists here and you're sticking up for them? Well done mate, well done. |
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Post by finsobruce on May 7, 2017 23:29:46 GMT
Right... they do know who the Vichy lovers in this election were don't they? Of course they do. Take them back 80 years and Leave.EU types would be BUF sympathisers... Oh and as for your point about the BUF I would point out, for the record, that the first British servicemen killed in World War Two, Ken Day and George Brocking (killed on the second day of the war) were member of the BUF. The BUF at no point advocated surrender to Germany, quite the reverse, and there was never any evidence of BUF members being traitors during the war. That's even if one were to accept the highly questionable notion that "Leave.EU types" would have been BUF supporters in the 1930s. This is presumably based on Leave.eu being right wing and nationalistic. However it hardly follows from that they would have been BUF supporters. Winston Churchill was not only right wing and nationalistic but he was a lifelong supporter of the idea of white supremacism and I need hardly remind you that he was an opponent of British surrender, and opponent of Vichy and never a BUF supporter. The first British serviceman killed in World War Two was Pilot Officer John Noel Isaac, who died less than an hour and a half after Neville Chamberlain's speech. |
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Post by mrpastelito on May 7, 2017 23:30:38 GMT
Paris: 89.68% Macron
Île-de-France:
Macron 3,825,985 (78,72%)
MLP 1,033,995
That's a difference of 2,791,990 (2.8 million!) votes.
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on May 7, 2017 23:35:28 GMT
Final results are in from Paris and Marseille. Provisionally it's 65.82% Macron, 34.18% Le Pen. Nearly a 10 million vote difference.
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Post by Sibboleth on May 7, 2017 23:52:00 GMT
The Socialist Party seem to have been completely Pasokified - for want of a better term - SFIOfied would be more accurate. No, because they've also lost ground to the Far Left. And of course En Marche is in no sense a party of the Left even if it will doubtless take many former PS members. |
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