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Post by Merseymike on Sept 13, 2016 21:13:01 GMT
The Conservative policy of 'managed decline' certainly has a lot to answer for in terms of loss of jobs in Liverpool. --- With regard to possible Labour candidates, here are a list of the Labour Councillors for the 6 wards within the constituency: Anfield - Ros Groves, Adele Dowling, Ian Francis Clubmoor - Jim Noakes, Irene Rainey, Roz Gladden County - Gerard Woodhouse, Roy Gladden, Kay Davies Everton - Jane Corbett, John Macintosh, Frank Prendergast Fazakerley - David Hanratty, Peter Clarke, Paul Brant Warbreck - Ann O'Byrne, Richard McLinden, Cheryl Harrison Now, there is no saying that the candidate will inevitably be one of these people, but there are certainly a few people who are probably frontrunners among that lot. Jim Noakes (Mayoral Lead for Energy and Smart Cities), Roz Gladden (Lord Mayor), Jane Corbett (Cabinet Member for Equalities), David Hanratty (Chair of Merseyside Fire Authority), Paul Brant (Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care) and Ann O'Byrne (Deputy Mayor) are all senior local figures with varying levels of support in the constituency. It's a bit of a long-shot, but I wonder if Dave Landrum (currently Advocacy Director at the Evangelical Alliance) might go for it. He's Liverpudlian, went for Bootle selection before the last GE I believe, a member of 'Blue Labour' / 'Christians on the Left' from my understanding. He managed not to get a single nomination from any ward in Bootle. Actually I gather he barely got a vote. |
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Post by Rural Radical on Sept 14, 2016 11:45:40 GMT
Walton looks set to disappear in the boundary review with bits going to Riverside, West Derby and Bootle, so whoever wins the seat may not be there for very long. In the circumstances, I wonder if they might go for an older candidate who would treat it as three years in the sun before they retire. Chris Williamson... I'd like to see a retread....but not him 😕 |
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Post by rivers10 on Sept 16, 2016 17:19:18 GMT
Walton looks set to disappear in the boundary review with bits going to Riverside, West Derby and Bootle, so whoever wins the seat may not be there for very long. In the circumstances, I wonder if they might go for an older candidate who would treat it as three years in the sun before they retire. Louise Ellman in Liverpool Riverside is supposedly retiring in 2020 so I imagine whoever gets Walton will then get Riverside. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 17, 2016 6:17:41 GMT
Walton looks set to disappear in the boundary review with bits going to Riverside, West Derby and Bootle, so whoever wins the seat may not be there for very long. In the circumstances, I wonder if they might go for an older candidate who would treat it as three years in the sun before they retire. Louise Ellman in Liverpool Riverside is supposedly retiring in 2020 so I imagine whoever gets Walton will then get Riverside. Retiring or being forced out by entryists? |
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Post by maxque on Sept 17, 2016 6:45:26 GMT
Louise Ellman in Liverpool Riverside is supposedly retiring in 2020 so I imagine whoever gets Walton will then get Riverside. Retiring or being forced out by entryists? Well, she will be 74 at the next election, and, let's be honest, she is a big Israel hack (she lied on record on BBC about Hamas and kid suicide bombers). Can't blame people for wanting to deselect her. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 17, 2016 9:09:59 GMT
I recall her original selection before the 1997 GE not being universally popular.
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Post by mick745 on Sept 17, 2016 11:49:33 GMT
Are there any circumstances in which Labour could lose this seat? Could a Mr Balls be the candidate or a Mr D Miliband?
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 17, 2016 11:53:57 GMT
No, no and no?
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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 17, 2016 11:59:21 GMT
Only if their candidate is pictured reading the Sun!
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Post by rivers10 on Sept 17, 2016 12:49:44 GMT
Retiring or being forced out by entryists? Well, she will be 74 at the next election, and, let's be honest, she is a big Israel hack (she lied on record on BBC about Hamas and kid suicide bombers). Can't blame people for wanting to deselect her. Suppose that depends on your political persuasion... Though for the record I know many of the "entryists" trying to be rid of her personally, some have been in the party longer than she has!!!
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Post by Strontium Dog on Oct 7, 2016 17:06:19 GMT
Liverpool gets painted as hard-done-by throughout history, when it of course it was an extremely powerful player in the land. That cuts both ways, of course. Liverpool is accused of demanding more than its fair share from central government, but so much of Britain's prosperity was built on the back of Liverpool's strength as a trading hub. At one time it was wealthier than London. I think it's paid enough in to expect a little back. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 7, 2016 22:28:20 GMT
Liverpool gets painted as hard-done-by throughout history, when it of course it was an extremely powerful player in the land. That cuts both ways, of course. Liverpool is accused of demanding more than its fair share from central government, but so much of Britain's prosperity was built on the back of Liverpool's strength as a trading hub. At one time it was wealthier than London. I think it's paid enough in to expect a little back. I might be hideously biased of course, but Liverpool did its level best to screw over its rivals. Hence why Manchester was stupid enough to build the biggest white elephant in Victorian Britain, the Ship Canal. But anyway, Liverpool isn't short of public funding and has a thriving business culture. A lot of the Big Four run their northern operations from there and have done for some time. Shame Cains went under though. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 7, 2016 22:37:17 GMT
That cuts both ways, of course. Liverpool is accused of demanding more than its fair share from central government, but so much of Britain's prosperity was built on the back of Liverpool's strength as a trading hub. At one time it was wealthier than London. I think it's paid enough in to expect a little back. I might be hideously biased of course, but Liverpool did its level best to screw over its rivals. Hence why Manchester was stupid enough to build the biggest white elephant in Victorian Britain, the Ship Canal. But anyway, Liverpool isn't short of public funding and has a thriving business culture. A lot of the Big Four run their northern operations from there and have done for some time. Shame Cains went under though.Very strange how that company was run. The brothers still seem to be talking up another version of it re-appearing. There seems to be more chance of a new version of Higsons making an appearance. Which would be nice. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 8, 2016 8:20:26 GMT
I might be hideously biased of course, but Liverpool did its level best to screw over its rivals. Hence why Manchester was stupid enough to build the biggest white elephant in Victorian Britain, the Ship Canal. But anyway, Liverpool isn't short of public funding and has a thriving business culture. A lot of the Big Four run their northern operations from there and have done for some time. Shame Cains went under though.Very strange how that company was run. The brothers still seem to be talking up another version of it re-appearing. There seems to be more chance of a new version of Higsons making an appearance. Which would be nice. Cains Mild is a real loss. Liverpool Organic are a fine replacement though. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 9, 2016 11:24:59 GMT
I might be hideously biased of course, but Liverpool did its level best to screw over its rivals. Hence why Manchester was stupid enough to build the biggest white elephant in Victorian Britain, the Ship Canal. But anyway, Liverpool isn't short of public funding and has a thriving business culture. A lot of the Big Four run their northern operations from there and have done for some time. Shame Cains went under though.Very strange how that company was run. The brothers still seem to be talking up another version of it re-appearing. There seems to be more chance of a new version of Higsons making an appearance. Which would be nice. The building is currently hosting some of the Biennial contemporary art exhibits and bits of it are being used for artisan businesses |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 9, 2016 14:28:03 GMT
It's a disingenuous reference to Lake Vrynwy in Wales. The people of a small village in a Welsh valley were moved to make room for a reservoir, serving the Wirral and greater Liverpool. What is the position now with decline at Liverpool? I recall that when I went to the Highlands in the 90s it was reported that Inverness was the fasting growing city in Europe whilst Liverpool was the most in decline. |
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Post by thirdchill on Oct 9, 2016 14:44:35 GMT
It's a disingenuous reference to Lake Vrynwy in Wales. The people of a small village in a Welsh valley were moved to make room for a reservoir, serving the Wirral and greater Liverpool. What is the position now with decline at Liverpool? I recall that when I went to the Highlands in the 90s it was reported that Inverness was the fasting growing city in Europe whilst Liverpool was the most in decline. Not in decline any more. Still has it's problems, and certainly has one of the widest wealth gaps of any major city. The south and east end of the city (Cressington, Mossley Hill, Allerton, Church, Woolton, Childwall) is very middle class and drastically different to some areas of north liverpool and areas such as Speke. The centre of liverpool has also undergone quite a transformation over the last couple of decades. Some people's perceptions of liverpool as being uniformly dire with few jobs and poverty stricken are very much out of date, and even in the 80's and 90's all of the above weren't 100% true across the city. It still has it's problems in some parts but so do other cities so it's by no means unique in this. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 9, 2016 14:51:29 GMT
What is the position now with decline at Liverpool? I recall that when I went to the Highlands in the 90s it was reported that Inverness was the fasting growing city in Europe whilst Liverpool was the most in decline. Not in decline any more. Still has it's problems, and certainly has one of the widest wealth gaps of any major city. The south and east end of the city (Cressington, Mossley Hill, Allerton, Church, Woolton, Childwall) is very middle class and drastically different to some areas of north liverpool and areas such as Speke. The centre of liverpool has also undergone quite a transformation over the last couple of decades. Some people's perceptions of liverpool as being uniformly dire with few jobs and poverty stricken are very much out of date, and even in the 80's and 90's all of the above weren't 100% true across the city. It still has it's problems in some parts but so do other cities so it's by no means unique in this. Thank you. I was referring solely to numbers of inhabitants in my question. For interest, when did it peak in numbers and subsequently what was the trough? |
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Post by thirdchill on Oct 9, 2016 14:56:18 GMT
Not in decline any more. Still has it's problems, and certainly has one of the widest wealth gaps of any major city. The south and east end of the city (Cressington, Mossley Hill, Allerton, Church, Woolton, Childwall) is very middle class and drastically different to some areas of north liverpool and areas such as Speke. The centre of liverpool has also undergone quite a transformation over the last couple of decades. Some people's perceptions of liverpool as being uniformly dire with few jobs and poverty stricken are very much out of date, and even in the 80's and 90's all of the above weren't 100% true across the city. It still has it's problems in some parts but so do other cities so it's by no means unique in this. Thank you. I was referring solely to numbers of inhabitants in my question. For interest, when did it peak in numbers and subsequently what was the trough? The trough was later than I thought, there was still population decline up until the 2001 census and possibly for a couple of years afterwards. The population had increased by the 2011 census, and to my knowledge continues to rise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_LiverpoolThe peak was in the 1930's. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 9, 2016 15:16:47 GMT
Thank you. I was referring solely to numbers of inhabitants in my question. For interest, when did it peak in numbers and subsequently what was the trough? The trough was later than I thought, there was still population decline up until the 2001 census and possibly for a couple of years afterwards. The population had increased by the 2011 census, and to my knowledge continues to rise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_LiverpoolThe peak was in the 1930's. So it was that late and the decline in every decade from 30s to 00s lost virtually half of the population! That is stark for a major city. What happened to all the vacant property? |
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