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Post by maxque on Aug 20, 2016 18:26:47 GMT
Pluraist?
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Post by john07 on Aug 23, 2016 16:29:47 GMT
I wonder if Lesley Mahmood might stand. There is a blast from the past. I think she was called Lesley Holt when I knew her. She was one of the least obnoxious of the Liveral Militants from what I recall. |
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Post by right on Sept 8, 2016 8:27:48 GMT
The Tory candidate got a third of the vote in 1979? Did boundaries change,demographics shift or just, well, Liverpool?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 8, 2016 8:36:28 GMT
The Tory candidate got a third of the vote in 1979? Did boundaries change,demographics shift or just, well, Liverpool? All three. In effect the 1983 boundary changes merged Walton and Kirkdale. The area suffered badly from job losses in heavy industry and the docks in the early 1980s recession. The Liverpool protestant working class vote for the Conservatives almost entirely disappeared after the 1970s. Note it was actually a Conservative held seat until 1964. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 8, 2016 10:38:13 GMT
In the 1959 GE the Tories won 6 of the 9 Liverpool seats (and only just missed out on another, Edge Hill)
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Post by Strontium Dog on Sept 8, 2016 15:53:35 GMT
Liverpool is one of the most small c conservative places in the country. This manifests itself in a dogged refusal to even consider electing anyone other than Labour MPs to Parliament.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 9, 2016 19:36:35 GMT
Liverpool is one of the most small c conservative places in the country. This manifests itself in a dogged refusal to even consider electing anyone other than Labour MPs to Parliament. And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. |
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Post by rivers10 on Sept 9, 2016 22:10:40 GMT
Liverpool is one of the most small c conservative places in the country. This manifests itself in a dogged refusal to even consider electing anyone other than Labour MPs to Parliament. And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. (Speaking as a local here) I wouldn't really describe Liverpool as small c conservative and certainly the Orange order parades (as infrequent and insignificant as they are to the vast majority of Liverpool residents) are more a symptom of our history than any lingering Orange sentiments.
As far as I can tell Liverpool is like most any other large urban area, indeed in parts of the city centre (around Bole Street) or in parts of Aigburth or Wavertree the city resembles the likes of Hackney. Mutli ethnic, hipster types and students everywhere, your typical range of bohemian independent shops, a suspiciously lingering stink of weed and the Green party vote you'd expect to go with it all.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 9, 2016 22:38:47 GMT
And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. (Speaking as a local here) I wouldn't really describe Liverpool as small c conservative and certainly the Orange order parades (as infrequent and insignificant as they are to the vast majority of Liverpool residents) are more a symptom of our history than any lingering Orange sentiments.
As far as I can tell Liverpool is like most any other large urban area, indeed in parts of the city centre (around Bole Street) or in parts of Aigburth or Wavertree the city resembles the likes of Hackney. Mutli ethnic, hipster types and students everywhere, your typical range of bohemian independent shops, a suspiciously lingering stink of weed and the Green party vote you'd expect to go with it all.
When I was in Liverpool a couple of years ago for Green Party conference, I was struck by how overwhelmingly white the city centre was (I don't recall seeing a single non-white face outside the conference centre). It felt a lot less multi-ethnic than any other UK city I've been to. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 9, 2016 22:54:51 GMT
Liverpool is one of the most small c conservative places in the country. This manifests itself in a dogged refusal to even consider electing anyone other than Labour MPs to Parliament. And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. There are regular Orange parades in London. They always end in St James's Square; I know because I bumped into one on the way to the London Library one Saturday. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 9, 2016 23:49:17 GMT
And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. There are regular Orange parades in London. They always end in St James's Square; I know because I bumped into one on the way to the London Library one Saturday. Are there? How often? I've genuinely never seen one (I have access to, but am not a member of, the London Library). |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 9, 2016 23:55:07 GMT
There are regular Orange parades in London. They always end in St James's Square; I know because I bumped into one on the way to the London Library one Saturday. Are there? How often? I've genuinely never seen one (I have access to, but am not a member of, the London Library). As you ask, here's the timetable. There may be others for all I know... www.orangeordersouthernengland.org/future_events.htm |
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Post by neilm on Sept 10, 2016 0:41:21 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 10, 2016 1:08:01 GMT
And being the only major English city to have Orange parades. There are regular Orange parades in London. They always end in St James's Square; I know because I bumped into one on the way to the London Library one Saturday. Well I never. Never seen one in London but run into several in Liverpool. |
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Post by rivers10 on Sept 10, 2016 13:06:00 GMT
(Speaking as a local here) I wouldn't really describe Liverpool as small c conservative and certainly the Orange order parades (as infrequent and insignificant as they are to the vast majority of Liverpool residents) are more a symptom of our history than any lingering Orange sentiments.
As far as I can tell Liverpool is like most any other large urban area, indeed in parts of the city centre (around Bole Street) or in parts of Aigburth or Wavertree the city resembles the likes of Hackney. Mutli ethnic, hipster types and students everywhere, your typical range of bohemian independent shops, a suspiciously lingering stink of weed and the Green party vote you'd expect to go with it all.
When I was in Liverpool a couple of years ago for Green Party conference, I was struck by how overwhelmingly white the city centre was (I don't recall seeing a single non-white face outside the conference centre). It felt a lot less multi-ethnic than any other UK city I've been to. Liverpool as a whole is less multi ethnic than most comparably sized cities primarily due to parts of North Liverpool (including pretty much the entirety of this constituency) being White. Liverpool's' minority voters are normally concentrated around South/Central Liverpool. As for you not seeing a single non white face in the city centre that seriously surprises me. Having visited other places like Manchester, Birmingham and London its obviously much whiter but you really don't have to go far to see a non white face, I cant remember the last time I went into town and didn't run across several non whites.
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Post by neilm on Sept 10, 2016 13:17:51 GMT
When I was in Liverpool a couple of years ago for Green Party conference, I was struck by how overwhelmingly white the city centre was (I don't recall seeing a single non-white face outside the conference centre). It felt a lot less multi-ethnic than any other UK city I've been to. Liverpool as a whole is less multi ethnic than most comparably sized cities primarily due to parts of North Liverpool (including pretty much the entirety of this constituency) being White. Liverpool's' minority voters are normally concentrated around South/Central Liverpool. As for you not seeing a single non white face in the city centre that seriously surprises me. Having visited other places like Manchester, Birmingham and London its obviously much whiter but you really don't have to go far to see a non white face, I cant remember the last time I went into town and didn't run across several non whites.
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Post by rivers10 on Sept 10, 2016 17:42:30 GMT
Liverpool as a whole is less multi ethnic than most comparably sized cities primarily due to parts of North Liverpool (including pretty much the entirety of this constituency) being White. Liverpool's' minority voters are normally concentrated around South/Central Liverpool. As for you not seeing a single non white face in the city centre that seriously surprises me. Having visited other places like Manchester, Birmingham and London its obviously much whiter but you really don't have to go far to see a non white face, I cant remember the last time I went into town and didn't run across several non whites.
'Senior Labour figure admits using car to attack blacks' "Next day correction" It has been pointed out that our headline entitled "Senior Labour figure admits using car to attack blacks" might have been misleading, the Labour figure in question was only 21 and held no position of power within the party thus we have issued a correction and removed the word "senior" from the online article in accordance with IPSO's suggestions.
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Post by thirdchill on Sept 10, 2016 19:27:12 GMT
As for you not seeing a single non white face in the city centre that seriously surprises me. I have to admit that surprises me as well. I saw people of quite a number of different ethnic backgrounds every time I went into the city centre. Yes they are not quite as prevalent as in some cities but I can't think of a time when I went into the city centre and didn't see one. I am, of course, not including around where I lived in liverpool before moving to where I am now, which was Princes Park (the ward with by far the highest BME population in liverpool). |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 11, 2016 11:13:17 GMT
Liverpool is very white (89% white, 85% 'White British': these are higher numbers than the average for all England) for the same reason as Scotland: no reason existed for postwar migrants to move there.
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Post by john07 on Sept 11, 2016 11:54:26 GMT
The Tory candidate got a third of the vote in 1979? Did boundaries change,demographics shift or just, well, Liverpool? All three. In effect the 1983 boundary changes merged Walton and Kirkdale. The area suffered badly from job losses in heavy industry and the docks in the early 1980s recession. The Liverpool protestant working class vote for the Conservatives almost entirely disappeared after the 1970s. That coincided with the Conservatives using blue as their campaign colour rather than orange. Remember that Liverpool was the only City on the mainland to elect an Irish Nationalist MP. |
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