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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 20, 2015 2:41:26 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 20, 2015 3:19:14 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 20, 2015 3:22:16 GMT
Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River in Saskatchewen is good fun. Keeps flitting between all three parties - Liberals (who got 5% last time) are currently leading but it's had other two leading at various other times in the night
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 20, 2015 3:24:06 GMT
Remember the 9 vote majority for the NDP last time over the Tories in Montmagny? This time the Tories are currently leading by 88 votes over the Liberals.
Beauport-Côte-de-Beaupré-Île d'Orléans-Charlevoix:
Last time: NDP 38%, BQ 32%, Con 23%, Lib 5%, Green 2%.
Latest: Lib 29.3%, Con 28.5%, BQ 21.0%, NDP 19.1%, Green 1.6%.
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 20, 2015 4:03:57 GMT
Fascinating to see the Conservatives winning 11 of 13 seats in and around Quebec City. The two they missed were Louis-Herbert and Quebec itself.
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 20, 2015 4:34:40 GMT
I'm off to bed now. Just leave with this thought.
This election result was the polar opposite of our result this year (apart from the unexpected majority which was the case in both countries). Here, with an uninspiring leader and incompetent campaign the opposition completely failed to combat the negative fear based campaign of a main government party that really wasn't very liked. In Canada, rather than falling into the Tories trap, a leader with real charisma sold a message which took on the Tories campaign of division and fear and swept them aside. The standard of the two Tories campaigns was very similar, shows what you can do when there's something decent to take it on.
Bye bye Harper.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 5:13:20 GMT
They count in the same way as the United States, at the most local level, which means the results for a particular constituency are reported in a piecemeal way, with the percentage reporting for each seat. And indeed most of the democratic world does this kind of progressive booth level declaration for their elections. It is we who are weird. You're absolutely right, although the little element of theatre that live constituency-wide declarations bring, with all the candidates lined up on the stage would be lost. I'm not sure I'd like to lose that. Could we have it both ways? Perhaps declare the constituency wide result first, then reveal the booth level declarations... |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 20, 2015 5:20:47 GMT
And indeed most of the democratic world does this kind of progressive booth level declaration for their elections. It is we who are weird. You're absolutely right, although the little element of theatre that live constituency-wide declarations bring, with all the candidates lined up on the stage would be lost. I'm not sure I'd like to lose that. Could we have it both ways? Perhaps declare the constituency wide result first, then reveal the booth level declarations... That's always been my preference. I hope it happens before too long. The closest constituency at the moment may be Elmwood-Transcona where the Conservatives currently hold a 3 vote lead over the NDP. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 20, 2015 7:00:39 GMT
Trudeaumania 2: Electric Boogaloo Fianna Pasok Returns. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 20, 2015 7:02:01 GMT
Reports that the NDP have lost former interim leader Nycole (sic) Turmel but have retained infamous paper candidate Ruth Ellen Brosseau.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 20, 2015 7:14:11 GMT
A fun read is Wikipedia's round-up of the election's gaffes and controversies. The BQ were surprisingly quiet, but our winner is the Liberal who said "your mother should have used that coathanger". The runner-up is the Conservative who claimed the French, not the Mohawks, have the real ancestral rights to Quebec.
Canada doesn't half have a lot of candidates who like to make dodgy comments about the Very Nasty People.
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Post by bolbridge on Oct 20, 2015 7:54:01 GMT
Reports that the NDP have lost former interim leader Nycole (sic) Turmel but have retained infamous paper candidate Ruth Ellen Brosseau. Please tell me this is true. |
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Post by mboy on Oct 20, 2015 7:58:59 GMT
I'm off to bed now. Just leave with this thought. This election result was the polar opposite of our result this year (apart from the unexpected majority which was the case in both countries). Here, with an uninspiring leader and incompetent campaign the opposition completely failed to combat the negative fear based campaign of a main government party that really wasn't very liked. In Canada, rather than falling into the Tories trap, a leader with real charisma sold a message which took on the Tories campaign of division and fear and swept them aside. The standard of the two Tories campaigns was very similar, shows what you can do when there's something decent to take it on. Bye bye Harper. Looks like a wonderful result. There will be some interesting lessons here on how a moderate centre-left party managed to deafeat both right-wing fear, and hard-left hysteria. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 20, 2015 8:11:03 GMT
I am now tallying the results in 100% poll reporting ridings and have so far tallied Newfoundland and Prince Edward Island (11 constituencies)
Liberals 216,270 (63%) winning 11 seats
New Democrats 67,904 (20%) winning 0 seats
Conservatives 43,340 (13%) winning 0 seats
Green Party 8,026 (2%) winning 0 seats
Others 8,019 (2%) winning 0 seats *
* In the Avalon constituency, the former Liberal MP Scott Andrews (standing as an Independent) polled 7,501 votes (18%). He was deselected as the Liberal candidate in 2014 following allegations by two NDP MP's that "Mr. Andrews followed her (the NDP MP who made the allegation) home after a social event, forced his way through her door, pushed her against a wall, groped her and ground his pelvis against her. She ordered him to leave. He did. The woman further alleged that Andrews subsequently repeatedly harassed her verbally, calling her a “c–kteaser,” among other things"
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 20, 2015 8:21:09 GMT
Although I crossed NDP as the party I would have supported Trudeau actually fought the election to the left of Mulcairs stance.
Why didn't he learn from Jack Layton who fought from a strong left wing platform and got an excellent NDP result last time?
Moving right doesn't necessarily work for left of centre parties any more.
I like Trudeau anyway so I'm glad they beat the Tories
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 20, 2015 8:23:10 GMT
I'm off to bed now. Just leave with this thought. This election result was the polar opposite of our result this year (apart from the unexpected majority which was the case in both countries). Here, with an uninspiring leader and incompetent campaign the opposition completely failed to combat the negative fear based campaign of a main government party that really wasn't very liked. In Canada, rather than falling into the Tories trap, a leader with real charisma sold a message which took on the Tories campaign of division and fear and swept them aside. The standard of the two Tories campaigns was very similar, shows what you can do when there's something decent to take it on. Bye bye Harper. Looks like a wonderful result. There will be some interesting lessons here on how a moderate centre-left party managed to deafeat both right-wing fear, and hard-left hysteria. I don't know where the hard left hysteria came from. Certainly not the NDP who started blathering on about balanced budgets.... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 20, 2015 8:25:42 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 20, 2015 8:28:58 GMT
So Canada is in future once again normal, i.e. "red".
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 20, 2015 8:31:32 GMT
I'm off to bed now. Just leave with this thought. This election result was the polar opposite of our result this year (apart from the unexpected majority which was the case in both countries). Here, with an uninspiring leader and incompetent campaign the opposition completely failed to combat the negative fear based campaign of a main government party that really wasn't very liked. In Canada, rather than falling into the Tories trap, a leader with real charisma sold a message which took on the Tories campaign of division and fear and swept them aside. The standard of the two Tories campaigns was very similar, shows what you can do when there's something decent to take it on. Bye bye Harper. Looks like a wonderful result. There will be some interesting lessons here on how a moderate centre-left party managed to deafeat both right-wing fear, and hard-left hysteria. Well, no. Trudeau ran to Mulcair's left. The fact that he clearly isn't actually going to govern from the NDP's left is only relevant insofar as it shows that a charismatic empty suit can still win based on charisma. |
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Post by mboy on Oct 20, 2015 8:46:27 GMT
Trudeau ran to Mulcair's left in the same way that Clegg ran to Brown's left - i.e. in some issues but clearly not on the whole platform. But whatever the details on that, there was no surge in Canada for anti-capitalist fantasy politics, despite them being in recession.
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