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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 13, 2015 17:20:35 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 13, 2015 20:01:23 GMT
With three centre left parties and one centre right party it's about time the Canucks sorted out a strategy to get rid of the Tories who have won two majority governments on minority votes
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 13, 2015 20:04:28 GMT
That depends on whether you regard the Liberals as a centre-left party, an amoral patronage machine seeking power for power's sake or an outright criminal conspiracy.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Apr 13, 2015 20:48:07 GMT
In recent elections it's been reasonable to regard them as a simple amusement.
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Apr 13, 2015 22:17:50 GMT
That depends on whether you regard the Liberals as a centre-left party, an amoral patronage machine seeking power for power's sake or an outright criminal conspiracy. Why can't they be all three?
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Post by Tangent on Apr 14, 2015 2:07:31 GMT
That depends on whether you regard the Liberals as a centre-left party, an amoral patronage machine seeking power for power's sake or an outright criminal conspiracy. Why can't they be all three? Well, if PASOK can manage it....
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 14, 2015 6:00:11 GMT
That depends on whether you regard the Liberals as a centre-left party, an amoral patronage machine seeking power for power's sake or an outright criminal conspiracy. Why can't they be all three? Well, you're right, they've had a damn good go at all three- sometimes they've even managed to be just one of those at one time.
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Post by iainbhx on Apr 19, 2015 20:12:03 GMT
Having just spend a week in BC, I got the distinct feeling that the Dauphin is heading for a bit of a fall and that the Dippers might well do very well again.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 19, 2015 22:56:10 GMT
That depends on whether you regard the Liberals as a centre-left party, an amoral patronage machine seeking power for power's sake or an outright criminal conspiracy. They are certainly the establishment party. Like BQ they have some progressives within but I would always vote NDP
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Post by Andrew_S on May 14, 2015 17:26:54 GMT
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Post by maxque on May 14, 2015 21:23:34 GMT
Through, there was a poll today saying Conservative 30, NDP 29, Lib 27 from a repudiable pollster.
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Post by MeirionGwril on May 15, 2015 6:11:09 GMT
repudiable presumably means it can be repudiated?
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Post by maxque on May 15, 2015 20:52:05 GMT
repudiable presumably means it can be repudiated? Oops. Reputable, through EKOS has sometimes wierd outliers, but results don't seem wierd to me. Trudeau and Liberals had a terrible month due to their taxes announcements who didn't went well and their flip-flopping about the anti-terrorism law (they went from "against" to "for", angering some of their civic liberties element, some of which left for NDP).
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Post by maxque on May 16, 2015 10:18:09 GMT
Through, there was a poll today saying Conservative 30, NDP 29, Lib 27 from a repudiable pollster. And Forum (a polling company) confirms with Con 31, Lib 31, NDP 30.
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on May 16, 2015 19:16:09 GMT
Are these Canadian reputable pollsters, similar to our reputable pollsters?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 19:23:48 GMT
Bound to be, eh?
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2015 19:31:14 GMT
Are these Canadian reputable pollsters, similar to our reputable pollsters? Alas they are even worse.
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Post by No Offence Alan on May 16, 2015 19:37:29 GMT
I guess with wide voting variations between the provinces, these voting patterns would lead to nothing like an even 3-way split in seats between the parties?
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Post by maxque on May 17, 2015 0:27:49 GMT
I guess with wide voting variations between the provinces, these voting patterns would lead to nothing like an even 3-way split in seats between the parties? The Forum had a seat projection with its poll. Con 131, NDP 111, Lab 95, Green 1, Bloc 0. (if you think seat totals don't add up, Parliament grows from 308 seats to 338 seats.) I would take that with a whole truck of salt, through.
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Post by maxque on May 18, 2015 8:57:58 GMT
I assume that the NDP are getting a federal poll boost from their victory in the Alberta provincial election? That, but also Liberals upset at their party deciding to support the controversial antiterrorism legislation introduced by Conservatives (some are saying it may infringe on individual laws or criminalize environmental advocacy and Israel boycotts, among other things). The Liberals also presented their "tax plan for the middle class", which didn't went well (it's like raising a very little bit taxes on wealthy to lower them a very little bit on "middle class" (in fact, it mostly helps high middle class)).
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