European Election 2014 - Germany

[iainbhx]

Mar 18, 2014 17:20:42 GMT neilm said:

The Bayernpartei stand for what exactly? Are they just a regional group, like a massive residents/ratepayers party?

Essentially they are Bavarian nationalists, they aren't quite the fascist/separatist wing of the CSU these days, they have can be quite liberal on some matters, the sort of things UKIP get "liberal" with. Their website is at Bayernpartei Programm but it's VERY blue and white. They look economically illiterate, there's quite a bit of populist spending in there.

[Devonian]

I see Farage is working on strengthening his links with people in the AfD. He spoke at the AfD Youth conference yesterday

www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nigel-farage-bei-afd-jubel-fuer-rechtspopulisten-und-euro-gegner-a-961244.html

[Devonian]

Farage speaking to AfD

[Devonian]

Poll from Forschungsgruppe Wahlen 28/03/14

CDU/CSU 39% (+1)

SPD 25% (-1)

GRUNE 12% (+1)

LINKE  8% (nc)

AfD 6% (nc)

FDP 3% (-1)

Other 6% (-1)

www.forschungsgruppe.de/Startseite/

Yet again still no breakdown of 'other'.

[Devonian]

Poll from Forschungsgruppe Wahlen 11/04/14


CDU/CSU 39%
SPD 27%
GRUNE 11%
LINKE 8%
AfD 6%
FDP 3%
Other 6%

www.forschungsgruppe.de/Startseite/

[Devonian]

INSA Euro poll 25/04

CDU/CSU 36%

SPD 28%

GRÜNE 11%

LINKE 9%

AfD 7%

FDP 4%

www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/europawahl.htm

[Devonian]

Whilst the UK polls have been all over the place the German polls have been very consistent. Latest polls

Poll from Infratest dimap 14/05/14


CDU/CSU 37%
SPD 27%
GRUNE 9%
LINKE 9%
AfD 7%
FDP 3%
Other 8%

Poll from Forschungsgruppe Wahlen 16/05/14

CDU/CSU 38%
SPD 27%
GRUNE 11%
LINKE 8%
AfD 6%
FDP 3%
Other 7%

www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/europawahl.htm

[Deleted]

Had the following national projection via the European Green Party:

GERMANY (Tageschau, 19:20) - Back into double digits! - Greens third political force




PARTY
VOTES
SEATS


CDU/CSU (Christian Democrats)
36%
30 + 5


SPD (Social Democrats)
27,2%
26


Grüne (Greens)
10,9%
11


Linke (Left)
7,5%
7


AfD (Right wing)
6,8%
7


FDP (Liberals)
3,2%
3


Piraten
1,3%
1


Tierschutzpartei
1,1%
1


NDP (Extreme Right)
0,8%
1


ÖDP (Ecological Democrats)
0,8%
1

[iainbhx]

Turnout was up to 48,1%

The following gained seats

CDU 30,0% (29)
SPD 27,3% (27)
GRÜ 10,7% (11)
SED 7,4% (7)
AfD 7,0% (7)
CSU 5,3% (5)
FDP 3,4% (3)
FW 1,5% (1)
PIR 1,4% (1)
TIER 1,2% (1)
NPD 1,0% (1)
FAM 0,7% (1)
ÖDP 0,6% (1)
PARTEI 0,6% (1)

Die PARTEI, eh, well this will be fun.

[markgoodair]

Who or what are Die Partei?

[iainbhx]

May 26, 2014 13:43:09 GMT markgoodair said:

Who or what are Die Partei?

No it's Die PARTEI. The full title is Partei für Arbeit, Rechtsstaat, Tierschutz, Elitenförderung und basisdemokratische Initiative.

May be helpful

Imagine if Private Eye back before Hislop had a political party.

[Devil Wincarnate]

A motley bunch towards the end.  I quite like the OeDP though.  First victory for a far-right candidate on the national stage since the demise of the Socialist Reich Party?

[iainbhx]

May 26, 2014 17:18:54 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

A motley bunch towards the end.  I quite like the OeDP though.  First victory for a far-right candidate on the national stage since the demise of the Socialist Reich Party?

AFAIK, the two SRD Bundestag members were defectors rather than elected.

[Tony Otim]

The Pirates are apparrently seeking to join EGP. The FW MEP is apparrently linked to EDP and therefore ALDE.

Any ideas where the others might go?

[David Ashforth]

Map of the results in Berlin.
interaktiv.morgenpost.de/europawahlkarte-berlin/

[Tony Otim]

Yes - there was a ruling to that effect earlier this year. I'm sure it's all upthread somewhere.

[Deleted]

May 28, 2014 14:08:49 GMT @trident said:

I'm surprised that the 5% threshold doesn't apply for European elections (hence the NPD getting a seat). Is this a new thing?

It saved the FDP.

[Devonian]

Reading an article about new MEP and AfD leader Bernd Lucke I noticed this

But Lucke is careful about his image. "I never allow myself to be photographed with a beer glass in hand," he says, sitting down at the table. "That would be populist. Besides, I don't drink beer."

www.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-portrait-of-bernd-lucke-and-the-new-german-right-a-969589.html

Does anyone have any idea who that remark might be aimed at?

[Devil Wincarnate]

May 28, 2014 17:44:47 GMT Devonian said:

Reading an article about new MEP and AfD leader Bernd Lucke I noticed this

But Lucke is careful about his image. "I never allow myself to be photographed with a beer glass in hand," he says, sitting down at the table. "That would be populist. Besides, I don't drink beer."

www.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-portrait-of-bernd-lucke-and-the-new-german-right-a-969589.html

Does anyone have any idea who that remark might be aimed at?

If only he'd said cigarette, it could also have been Helmut Schmidt.

[nick]

Dec 20, 2013 10:41:40 GMT iainbhx said:

What may be of interest is that I understand that Germany is only imposing a 3% Hurdle on the Euro-elections. This might be a lifeline for the FDP and the Pirates.

This reply is a wee bit late but the president of the federal court, Andreas Vosskuhle, ruled in Feb 2014 that the 3% entry hurdle violated the constitution as it stopped parties from getting a fair hearing. This ruling came into effect immediately and would apply to the European elections in May.