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Post by johnloony on Nov 6, 2024 13:25:06 GMT
I predict
Jimmy Carter (Democrat) 396
Chuck Grassley (Republican) 142
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Post by redvers on Nov 6, 2024 13:49:50 GMT
Oh john
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 6, 2024 13:55:30 GMT
I predict Jimmy Carter (Democrat) 396 Chuck Grassley (Republican) 142 Is that a prediction of what age they will reach? |
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Post by Johncrane on Nov 6, 2024 13:59:41 GMT
I think that the democrats are going to take the lesson that Kamala was considered to be too liberal by the electorate ( There is some polling which points to this) and going to try to go big on appearing as "Moderate" as they can. I think Andy Beshear fills this space considering he's the governor of Kentucky which is a deep red state. Maybe they going to attempt to "reclaim" the Latino male vote and i think someone like Ruben Gallego can sell himself to be the man to do that.
As for the republicans.. I don't really know tbh. JD Vance seems like the obivous candidate but if trump proves to be unpopular which probably will be the case tbh, then as we saw today, Vance being in an unpopular administration can kill his chances maybe even in a primary. I think Younkin's successes in Virginia will be seen as a way to build a broad coalition without being Trump. Trumpism without Trump Essentially.
So I say: Youngkin vs Beshear
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Post by Sandy on Nov 6, 2024 14:40:05 GMT
I predict Jimmy Carter (Democrat) 396 Chuck Grassley (Republican) 142 Jimmy Carter vs AI reanimated Gerald Ford (round 2) |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 6, 2024 15:16:06 GMT
Me? I’m not eligible because I’m not an American citizen. Anyway, I won’t be old enough until about 2048. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 6, 2024 15:49:15 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 6, 2024 16:03:16 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect. In fairness, what we know is that Democratic voters are irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS! It would not be a shock if the first female president ends up being a Republican Latina... |
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Post by michaelarden on Nov 6, 2024 16:12:01 GMT
Isn't the Republican nominee going to be a Trump of some description?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Nov 6, 2024 16:21:04 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect. in the same way that the Labour party seems to be averse to electing(not stand ins etc) a female leader? |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 6, 2024 17:59:44 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect. To be fair, that hypothesis is yet to be tested with a really strong female candidate... |
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Nov 6, 2024 18:32:55 GMT
If Trump goes all in on protectionism and authoritarianism then, along with the general rightward shift of the electorate, perhaps we will see the rebirth of the old Democratic Party; free trade, state's rights, White ethnic, small-c conservative.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 6, 2024 18:36:55 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect. In fairness, what we know is that Democratic voters are irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS! It would not be a shock if the first female president ends up being a Republican Latina... I remember reading a short story in the '80s about a black female Vice President stepping into the dead president's shoes, and she was a Republican. She'd been picked as a harmless figurehead to "boost votes with the minorities". The first thing the Establishment did was try to get her to appoint a replacement VP they offered, then resign for him to take over. She immediately instructed them to offer their resignations. |
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Post by sanders on Nov 6, 2024 20:24:03 GMT
Shame that the American public seems so irrationally averse to electing a female POTUS, or else Gretchen Whitmer would really stand out for the Dems as a 2028 prospect. To be fair, that hypothesis is yet to be tested with a really strong female candidate... Indeed. I think Hillary Clinton would have outperformed Barack Obama in 2008 and probably won Missouri and Montana, and possibly Georgia or some other McCain states. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Nov 6, 2024 21:07:26 GMT
Aren't we glad some dotard didn't do away with the 22nd Amendment?
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Post by willpower3 on Nov 7, 2024 11:37:34 GMT
Republicans - it's hard to see beyond Vance even if the Administration is unpopular. The Republicans don't have an impressive field of potential candidates.
Democrats - their potential field is more impressive. Fetterman would fit a lot of the criteria if he were in better health.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 7, 2024 13:12:47 GMT
To be fair, that hypothesis is yet to be tested with a really strong female candidate... Indeed. I think Hillary Clinton would have outperformed Barack Obama in 2008 and probably won Missouri and Montana, and possibly Georgia or some other McCain states. HRC wasn't much more popular in 2008 than 2016, why else do you think she lost her "unloseable" nomination in the first place! |
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Post by sanders on Nov 7, 2024 13:19:03 GMT
Indeed. I think Hillary Clinton would have outperformed Barack Obama in 2008 and probably won Missouri and Montana, and possibly Georgia or some other McCain states. HRC wasn't much more popular in 2008 than 2016, why else do you think she lost her "unloseable" nomination in the first place! She would have almost certainly won more white voters, and thus, more states. Obama was more populist on the campaign trail than he was in office and he won because he was the change candidate in the 2008 Democratic primary and the election. The nomination was never unlovable and front runners often lost it, like Howard Dean who was the front runner in the 2004 Democratic primaries, but crashed out after his, um, episode. Look up the Dean scream if you haven't seen it. |
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Post by batman on Nov 7, 2024 13:21:33 GMT
Just looked him up and yes, Howard Dean is still alive, and not all that old. Years since we heard anything of him.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 7, 2024 14:00:24 GMT
Just looked him up and yes, Howard Dean is still alive, and not all that old. Years since we heard anything of him. Heard anything of him? Our ears are still ringing from his yell. |
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