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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 9, 2024 7:31:04 GMT
The PS are playing Manu at his own game and appealing to the "Macronistes de gauche" to join them in government.
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Post by right on Jul 9, 2024 7:38:05 GMT
The PS are playing Manu at his own game and appealing to the "Macronistes de gauche" to join them in government. Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 9, 2024 7:41:46 GMT
The PS are playing Manu at his own game and appealing to the "Macronistes de gauche" to join them in government. Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. Doubt it, the Méluche mob would be very angry. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 8:00:23 GMT
Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. Doubt it, the Méluche mob would be very angry. NPF want to be propped up they just don't want to be propping up |
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Post by right on Jul 9, 2024 8:08:36 GMT
Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. Doubt it, the Méluche mob would be very angry. So Melanchon won't do anything to attract governing partners, which means the PS are just on the wind up with Macronistas? Surely the PS will have to defect from NPF at some point. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 9, 2024 8:35:29 GMT
Doubt it, the Méluche mob would be very angry. So Melanchon won't do anything to attract governing partners, which means the PS are just on the wind up with Macronistas? Surely the PS will have to defect from NPF at some point. JLM seems hell-bent on annoying partners within NPF so it would indeed seem sensible for the PS to consider their options. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 8:53:11 GMT
Doubt it, the Méluche mob would be very angry. So Melanchon won't do anything to attract governing partners, which means the PS are just on the wind up with Macronistas? Surely the PS will have to defect from NPF at some point. Oliver Fauvre leader of the PS has ruled this out |
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Post by right on Jul 9, 2024 8:57:22 GMT
So Melanchon won't do anything to attract governing partners, which means the PS are just on the wind up with Macronistas? Surely the PS will have to defect from NPF at some point. Oliver Fauvre leader of the PS has ruled this out In a full confidence in the manager way? |
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Post by right on Jul 9, 2024 8:58:16 GMT
So Melanchon won't do anything to attract governing partners, which means the PS are just on the wind up with Macronistas? Surely the PS will have to defect from NPF at some point. JLM seems hell-bent on annoying partners within NPF so it would indeed seem sensible for the PS to consider their options. Is Melanchon courting a betrayal narrative? |
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Post by relique on Jul 9, 2024 9:03:49 GMT
The PS are playing Manu at his own game and appealing to the "Macronistes de gauche" to join them in government. Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. Incumbent president of the Laws Comittee in the assembly Sacha Houlié (Ensemble) is creating a "social démocratic" grouping. They say they have the numbers (15) to create the group which will be mainly macronists but also some former socialists who sitted with LIOT last time. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 10:15:04 GMT
Oliver Fauvre leader of the PS has ruled this out In a full confidence in the manager way? TBF Fauvre has been the biggest proponent for the alliance since 2022 |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 10:16:41 GMT
Any chance of that happening, and how may would they need to make it work? Despite their defeat, the Macronistas still seem the only plausible anchor for a governing coalition. Incumbent president of the Laws Comittee in the assembly Sacha Houlié (Ensemble) is creating a "social démocratic" grouping. They say they have the numbers (15) to create the group which will be mainly macronists but also some former socialists who sitted with LIOT last time. you don't get to call yourself a social democrat if you abandon the social democratic party in 2017 for Jupiters vanity project |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 9, 2024 11:13:32 GMT
Incumbent president of the Laws Comittee in the assembly Sacha Houlié (Ensemble) is creating a "social démocratic" grouping. They say they have the numbers (15) to create the group which will be mainly macronists but also some former socialists who sitted with LIOT last time. you don't get to call yourself a social democrat if you abandon the social democratic party in 2017 for Jupiters vanity project You also don’t get to call yourself a social democratic party after allying with Trots and Jihadists. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 11:16:37 GMT
you don't get to call yourself a social democrat if you abandon the social democratic party in 2017 for Jupiters vanity project You also don’t get to call yourself a social democratic party after allying with Trots and Jihadists. though voters have rewarded the social democratic party with 40 extra seats |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 9, 2024 11:17:54 GMT
You also don’t get to call yourself a social democratic party after allying with Trots and Jihadists. though voters have rewarded the social democratic party with 40 extra seats Good for them, but they are now slaves of Melenchon, like the other German right wing parties who sucked up to Hitler. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 11:19:01 GMT
though voters have rewarded the social democratic party with 40 extra seats Good for them, but they are now slaves of Melenchon, like the other German right wing parties who sucked up to Hitler. I think the PS are the biggest party in the alliance now |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 9, 2024 11:20:12 GMT
Good for them, but they are now slaves of Melenchon, like the other German right wing parties who sucked up to Hitler. I think the PS are the biggest party in the alliance now Doesn’t LFI have 20 more seats? Did LFI members defect? |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 9, 2024 11:35:11 GMT
though voters have rewarded the social democratic party with 40 extra seats Good for them, but they are now slaves of Melenchon, like the other German right wing parties who sucked up to Hitler. I think that we have already seen peak Melenchon, he is now over 70 and it is arguably quite reasonable if the PS are actually looking to the longer term. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 9, 2024 11:38:30 GMT
I think the PS are the biggest party in the alliance now Doesn’t LFI have 20 more seats? Did LFI members defect? just going on what relique was saying, I thought LFI had more but he said otherwise. There are LFI dissidents yes |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 9, 2024 12:35:33 GMT
Good for them, but they are now slaves of Melenchon, like the other German right wing parties who sucked up to Hitler. I think that we have already seen peak Melenchon, he is now over 70 and it is arguably quite reasonable if the PS are actually looking to the longer term. The PS could do with LFI imploding. |
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