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Post by markgoodair on Jun 9, 2024 19:19:24 GMT
Macron has dissolved the lower house and called early election.
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Post by relique on Jun 9, 2024 19:30:04 GMT
He clearly wants to appoint Marine Le Pen (or Bardella) as the next PM to force them into government (and to deal with his complete shamble of a budget) for two years. He has the Senate and the Constitutional council as counter-powers.
That's a dangerous game. But I guess he's completely out of his depth.
The left are quite fragile. Insoumis want to disavow the european election as a basis for discussion for allocation of seats within the left but PS will jump on the occasion. Talks will be hard.
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Post by Kristofer Keane on Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.
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Post by European Lefty on Jun 9, 2024 19:53:56 GMT
France's answer to Rishi Sunak
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 9, 2024 20:17:37 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. Very bold decision, Mr Horne, very bold.
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Post by johnloony on Jun 9, 2024 20:22:28 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. It just goes to show how hysterical and emotional the French are, that a vacuous young leader, struggling against unpopularity, would succumb to such reckless temptations and call a snap election earlier than necessary as a substitute for being able to govern properly with inspired and charismatic leadership. Such a thing could not happen here in the UK.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 20:23:50 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. It just goes to show how hysterical and emotional the French are, that a vacuous young leader, struggling against unpopularity, would succumb to such reckless temptations and call a snap election earlier than necessary as a substitute for being able to govern properly with inspired and charismatic leadership. Such a thing could not happen here in the UK. He didn’t sacrifice himself, he just threw Attal under the bus.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 9, 2024 20:25:31 GMT
Cue the von Hindenburg memes if he makes her PM.
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Post by xenon on Jun 9, 2024 20:27:12 GMT
Could the Macronista Party (I forget what they're called this week) fall into third place behind the Socialists?
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Post by mattbewilson on Jun 9, 2024 20:28:22 GMT
He clearly wants to appoint Marine Le Pen (or Bardella) as the next PM to force them into government (and to deal with his complete shamble of a budget) for two years. He has the Senate and the Constitutional council as counter-powers. That's a dangerous game. But I guess he's completely out of his depth. The left are quite fragile. Insoumis want to disavow the european election as a basis for discussion for allocation of seats within the left but PS will jump on the occasion. Talks will be hard. NUPES is surely a stretch to far with the differences over foreign policy atm
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 9, 2024 20:29:50 GMT
First round 30th June Second round 7th July
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Post by right on Jun 9, 2024 20:37:07 GMT
Phew
I was worried we had the most bizarre snap election in Europe
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 20:56:28 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. And right on queue, a demonstration has appeared in Paris against the dissolution!
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Post by relique on Jun 9, 2024 21:07:16 GMT
To answer a few things: - Bardella is the candidate for PM (and Le Pen for presidential, it was officialised today), - Now that european election is over, the party system will prevail (Glucksman can go screaming in Brussels for no one to hear), but NUPES negociation will be hard, surely, - Mélenchon called for a protest in Staliningrad, which is clearly not ironic...
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 9, 2024 21:10:47 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. And right on queue, a demonstration has appeared in Paris against the dissolution!
I thought it was the English that spontaneously formed queues, not the French.
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Post by stb12 on Jun 9, 2024 21:20:00 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 21:38:35 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power He might also be thinking that the Left will be too busy with infighting to repeat the NUPES trick.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 9, 2024 21:43:41 GMT
He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power He might also be thinking that the Left will be too busy with infighting to repeat the NUPES trick. Or just thrashing around wildly.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 9, 2024 21:48:21 GMT
It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one. Making the main opPonent PrimeMinister is in France a traditional way of destroying him...
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Post by European Lefty on Jun 9, 2024 22:01:02 GMT
The RN are leading in Ariège. In Clermont-Ferrand the Greens narrowly beat the "No to the EU, no to NATO - Communists for Peace and Social Progress" to first place which is just weird
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