French General Election 2024

[markgoodair]

Macron has dissolved the lower house and called early election.

[relique]

He clearly wants to appoint Marine Le Pen (or Bardella) as the next PM to force them into government (and to deal with his complete shamble of a budget) for two years. He has the Senate and the Constitutional council as counter-powers.

That's a dangerous game. But I guess he's completely out of his depth.

The left are quite fragile. Insoumis want to disavow the european election as a basis for discussion for allocation of seats within the left but PS will jump on the occasion. Talks will be hard.

[Kristofer Keane]

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

[Deleted]

France's answer to Rishi Sunak

[finsobruce]

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

Very bold decision, Mr Horne, very bold.

[johnloony]

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

It just goes to show how hysterical and emotional the French are, that a vacuous young leader, struggling against unpopularity, would succumb to such reckless temptations and call a snap election earlier than necessary as a substitute for being able to govern properly with inspired and charismatic leadership. Such a thing could not happen here in the UK.

[rcronald]

Jun 9, 2024 20:22:28 GMT johnloony said:

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

It just goes to show how hysterical and emotional the French are, that a vacuous young leader, struggling against unpopularity, would succumb to such reckless temptations and call a snap election earlier than necessary as a substitute for being able to govern properly with inspired and charismatic leadership. Such a thing could not happen here in the UK.

He didn’t sacrifice himself, he just threw Attal under the bus.

[Forfarshire Conservative]

Cue the von Hindenburg memes if he makes her PM.

[xenon]

Could the Macronista Party (I forget what they're called this week) fall into third place behind the Socialists?

[mattbewilson]

Jun 9, 2024 19:30:04 GMT relique said:

He clearly wants to appoint Marine Le Pen (or Bardella) as the next PM to force them into government (and to deal with his complete shamble of a budget) for two years. He has the Senate and the Constitutional council as counter-powers.

That's a dangerous game. But I guess he's completely out of his depth.

The left are quite fragile. Insoumis want to disavow the european election as a basis for discussion for allocation of seats within the left but PS will jump on the occasion. Talks will be hard.

NUPES is surely a stretch to far with the differences over foreign policy atm

[markgoodair]

First round 30th June
Second round 7th July

[right]

Phew

I was worried we had the most bizarre snap election in Europe

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

And right on queue, a demonstration has appeared in Paris against the dissolution!

[relique]

To answer a few things:
- Bardella is the candidate for PM (and Le Pen for presidential, it was officialised today),
- Now that european election is over, the party system will prevail (Glucksman can go screaming in Brussels for no one to hear), but NUPES negociation will be hard, surely,
- Mélenchon called for a protest in Staliningrad, which is clearly not ironic...

[J.G.Harston]

Jun 9, 2024 20:56:28 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

And right on queue, a demonstration has appeared in Paris against the dissolution!

I thought it was the English that spontaneously formed queues, not the French.

[stb12]

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jun 9, 2024 21:20:00 GMT stb12 said:

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power

He might also be thinking that the Left will be too busy with infighting to repeat the NUPES trick.

[finsobruce]

Jun 9, 2024 21:38:35 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Jun 9, 2024 21:20:00 GMT stb12 said:

He doesn’t have a majority in Parliament anyway so the only logic can be that he thinks National Rally’s momentum might be stopped if they actually have some governing power

He might also be thinking that the Left will be too busy with infighting to repeat the NUPES trick.

Or just thrashing around wildly.

[Georg Ebner]

Jun 9, 2024 19:52:35 GMT Kristofer Keane said:

It's a bit of a bizarre move - we've just been destroyed in an election, so let's immediately have another one.

Making the main opPonent PrimeMinister is in France a traditional way of destroying him...

[Deleted]

The RN are leading in Ariège. In Clermont-Ferrand the Greens narrowly beat the "No to the EU, no to NATO - Communists for Peace and Social Progress" to first place which is just weird