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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 1:51:37 GMT
Absolutely shameful that the broadcasters to my knowledge didn’t show the declaration here or Waveney Valley (party co-leaders, in case they don’t know) and made little mention of North Herefordshire. And yet permanent footage of Farage in a restaurant/bar in Clacton. They actually don't like the Greens? |
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Post by andrewp on Jul 8, 2024 8:26:18 GMT
Apologies if this has been asked/answered before. Would the Tories have won this seat in 1992? Yes they would have. I’m not sure they would have won in 1992 on the 2010-24 boundaries. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 8, 2024 19:16:39 GMT
Absolutely shameful that the broadcasters to my knowledge didn’t show the declaration here or Waveney Valley (party co-leaders, in case they don’t know) and made little mention of North Herefordshire. And yet permanent footage of Farage in a restaurant/bar in Clacton. Let's not mince words - after the initial reveal of the exit poll (which they actually carried off better than the other channels) the BBC election coverage was an absolute disgrace and the nadir for a politics/news department that has already plumbed hitherto unseen depths in recent years. Somebody just waking up from a decade long coma and tuning in, would have quite genuinely and seriously got the impression some outfit called "Reform" had just won the GE and Nigel Farage was the UK's new Prime Minister. It goes without saying either that Kuensservativeberg was an appalling choice to front it. Both obviously biased and completely lacking gravitas. OK, rant over  |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 10, 2024 17:52:19 GMT
Thangam Debonnaire was on the local news this evening announcing that she won’t stand for Parliament again.
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Post by sanders on Oct 10, 2024 18:36:41 GMT
Thangam Debonnaire was on the local news this evening announcing that she won’t stand for Parliament again. That is probably for the best. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 10, 2024 23:44:26 GMT
Thangam Debonnaire was on the local news this evening announcing that she won’t stand for Parliament again. A peerage on the way? |
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Post by sanders on Oct 11, 2024 5:15:37 GMT
Thangam Debonnaire was on the local news this evening announcing that she won’t stand for Parliament again. A peerage on the way? "Not another one" - Brenda from Bristol. |
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Post by batman on Oct 11, 2024 9:08:03 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 11, 2024 9:12:35 GMT
Thangam Debonnaire was on the local news this evening announcing that she won’t stand for Parliament again. That is probably for the best. Not a good election for pro (or ex-pro) musicians in the Commons. Debbonaire was a cellist in a previous life. Jane Stevenson (Con, Wolverhampton NE) was a soprano, I hope she's kept up her singing practice. |
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 11, 2024 9:31:02 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon. Reading today's Times article about SG it's easier to conclude that many at no.10 would rather strap her into a ducking stool than elevation to the HoL. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 11, 2024 10:24:35 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon. about SG it's easier to conclude that many at no.10 would rather strap her into a ducking stool than elevation to the HoL. There was a time when that would have been considered a reliable source irrespective of politics, sadly not so much these days though. |
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Post by sanders on Oct 11, 2024 11:44:31 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon. I'm sure Jonathan Ashworth gets one. Nice reward for losing his seat. |
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Post by michaelarden on Oct 11, 2024 13:58:58 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon. I'm sure Jonathan Ashworth gets one. Nice reward for losing his seat. It will be a test to see whether he's going to return to the Commons - perhaps parachuted into a nice safe seat near Manchester? |
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Post by aargauer on Oct 11, 2024 14:12:50 GMT
Yes another one, inevitably there will be new peerages created by the PM and most will be Labour. No doubt soon the member for Beckenham & Penge will be able to call himself The Hon. Liam Conlon. I'm sure Jonathan Ashworth gets one. Nice reward for losing his seat. He's only 45. Surely he tries to get back into parliament. |
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Post by stb12 on Oct 11, 2024 14:25:36 GMT
Others may know better but it just seems to me like this was a perfect seat for the Greens to gain under the circumstances rather than it being anything wrong with Debbonaire as such
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Post by batman on Oct 11, 2024 17:59:49 GMT
That is probably for the best. Not a good election for pro (or ex-pro) musicians in the Commons. Debbonaire was a cellist in a previous life. Jane Stevenson (Con, Wolverhampton NE) was a soprano, I hope she's kept up her singing practice. I heard that Andrea Jenkyns is some kind of singer, too, but there's nothing about it in her Wikipedia |
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 11, 2024 18:54:02 GMT
Not a good election for pro (or ex-pro) musicians in the Commons. Debbonaire was a cellist in a previous life. Jane Stevenson (Con, Wolverhampton NE) was a soprano, I hope she's kept up her singing practice. I heard that Andrea Jenkyns is some kind of singer, too, but there's nothing about it in her Wikipedia The YouTube clips disappeared soon after her election in 2015. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 12, 2024 14:41:50 GMT
Others may know better but it just seems to me like this was a perfect seat for the Greens to gain under the circumstances rather than it being anything wrong with Debbonaire as such Debbonaire seemed to be oddly demonised. Owen Jones and the like gunning for her. |
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Post by Johncrane on Oct 12, 2024 16:22:22 GMT
Others may know better but it just seems to me like this was a perfect seat for the Greens to gain under the circumstances rather than it being anything wrong with Debbonaire as such Debbonaire seemed to be oddly demonised. Owen Jones and the like gunning for her. Yh, She seemed to be a generic Labour mp who was willing to tow the party line to keep her place in the frontbench although considering the fact bristol central is probably the most left wing constituency in the country that was clearly the wrong decision. It's interesting to note that a lot of politically engaged people were saying online that she had a decent personal vote and the greens wouldn't win this time round, even some labour supporters were saying this in this forum and i think some people on the left wanted to refute that point, which to be fair it seems they were right |
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Post by bsjmcr on Oct 22, 2024 0:17:11 GMT
Others may know better but it just seems to me like this was a perfect seat for the Greens to gain under the circumstances rather than it being anything wrong with Debbonaire as such She obviously did something right to get 47,000 votes at one point, though some of that would have been down to the Corbyn surge, but I think the issue for her and Ashworth was just pure complacency - going round all the TV interviews and perhaps being perceived to be seen in front of a camera and not in the constituency, thinking it’s in the bag (locally and nationally!). On top of that, given her quest for a cabinet role, having to toe the party line, so a case of the Starmer Labour Party moving away from the constituency? I’m sure this is a very well informed electorate and as we have seen not the sort that blindly votes for any Labour candidate. I wonder if someone like say Zarah Sultana was the Labour candidate she may have hung on here - I can imagine her ‘student union’ style might play well here. |
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