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Post by casualobserver on Jun 11, 2024 6:42:02 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target.
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Post by birkinabe on Jun 12, 2024 19:51:27 GMT
Don't know what's worse here: the interviewer citing a UK Polling Report projection as if it means anything, or Galloway agreeing to an interview with a Twitter content farm in the first place.
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Post by right on Jun 12, 2024 21:31:26 GMT
Not Labour election spending for... reasons
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2024 21:34:06 GMT
Results of the local elections in the nine wards which approximate this constituency: Lab 9531 (38.1%) WPB 5755 (23.0%) missing 1 ward Con 4496 (18.0%) Lib Dem 4085 (16.3%) Green 1129 (4.5%) missing 2 wards Great work. |
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Jun 20, 2024 20:11:56 GMT
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2024 20:11:56 GMT
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Jun 21, 2024 18:25:49 GMT
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Post by Adam on Jun 21, 2024 18:25:49 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target. There are 154 WPB candidates so they need to average 974. If we assume the man himself gets 25,000 that means the other 153 would have average 817. Is that really likely? |
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Jun 21, 2024 19:33:05 GMT
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Post by john07 on Jun 21, 2024 19:33:05 GMT
In what way are Hope Not Hate Labour linked? No you but the url link. |
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Post by casualobserver on Jun 21, 2024 19:47:43 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target. There are 154 WPB candidates so they need to average 974. If we assume the man himself gets 25,000 that means the other 153 would have average 817. Is that really likely? There will be a few outliers but, no, an average of anything like 817 is highly unlikely. But that's the narrative the Party is putting out to its candidates. No doubt both you and I would be accused of using bourgeois capitalist arithmetic against the Great Leader!! |
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Jun 21, 2024 19:59:47 GMT
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Post by right on Jun 21, 2024 19:59:47 GMT
There are 154 WPB candidates so they need to average 974. If we assume the man himself gets 25,000 that means the other 153 would have average 817. Is that really likely? There will be a few outliers but, no, an average of anything like 817 is highly unlikely. But that's the narrative the Party is putting out to its candidates. If they can get the mosques interested in some candidates there could be a few candidates who could get in the low thousands. It will be patchy but if they can do that in 15 constituencies that would make a dent in the averages that the other candidates need |
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Post by right on Jun 21, 2024 20:01:28 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target. That's quite the call from Galloway, particularly as he's not actually faced Labour in this seat yet |
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Post by right on Jun 23, 2024 19:52:47 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jun 23, 2024 19:54:11 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target. That's quite the call from Galloway, particularly as he's not actually faced Labour in this seat yet As I have indicated before, many of the Labour voters I know abstained at the byelection, while, in the local elections, Labour did very well. Paul Waugh is probably the perfect candidate for the various anti-Galloway voters and, having thought George Galloway would hold the seat fairly closely, but comfortable. Now, I think he is in with a bit of a battle. |
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Post by sirnorfolkpassmore on Jun 24, 2024 6:31:17 GMT
Interesting comments from within WPB: Galloway is hopeful of retaining this seat, so is encouraging all of his candidates around the country to get in every vote possible so that the WPB gets 150,000 votes nationwide and they qualify for Short money. It doesn’t seem to be an unachievable national target. There are 154 WPB candidates so they need to average 974. If we assume the man himself gets 25,000 that means the other 153 would have average 817. Is that really likely? Respect were averaging about 2500 votes in seats beyond Galloway's Bethnal Green win in 2005. I know they are going for far more seats this time, which will inevitably include quite a few weaker areas. But I'd have thought it's possible. We're not looking at huge sums of Short money here. If Galloway is elected and they barely make the threshold, it's about £50k to support their Parliamentary work, so that's maybe an additional member of staff. |
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Jun 24, 2024 9:22:19 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 9:22:19 GMT
That's quite the call from Galloway, particularly as he's not actually faced Labour in this seat yet As I have indicated before, many of the Labour voters I know abstained at the byelection, while, in the local elections, Labour did very well. Paul Waugh is probably the perfect candidate for the various anti-Galloway voters and, having thought George Galloway would hold the seat fairly closely, but comfortable. Now, I think he is in with a bit of a battle. Being off the scene at the moment, might I ask - is Gaza featuring as much in the overall election narrative as it might have been when Galloway took Rochdale? Or has it been swept away by the broader direction? |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jun 24, 2024 9:27:33 GMT
As I have indicated before, many of the Labour voters I know abstained at the byelection, while, in the local elections, Labour did very well. Paul Waugh is probably the perfect candidate for the various anti-Galloway voters and, having thought George Galloway would hold the seat fairly closely, but comfortable. Now, I think he is in with a bit of a battle. Being off the scene at the moment, might I ask - is Gaza featuring as much in the overall election narrative as it might have been when Galloway took Rochdale? Or has it been swept away by the broader direction? Still an issue within the Muslim community, but mostly distracted by internecine squabbles between Murray and Hussein camps. |
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Jun 24, 2024 9:34:43 GMT
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Post by right on Jun 24, 2024 9:34:43 GMT
As I have indicated before, many of the Labour voters I know abstained at the byelection, while, in the local elections, Labour did very well. Paul Waugh is probably the perfect candidate for the various anti-Galloway voters and, having thought George Galloway would hold the seat fairly closely, but comfortable. Now, I think he is in with a bit of a battle. Being off the scene at the moment, might I ask - is Gaza featuring as much in the overall election narrative as it might have been when Galloway took Rochdale? Or has it been swept away by the broader direction? What's weird is that there seems to be a ton of political energy among the Muslim community as witnessed by a slew of independent Muslim candidates and quasi-independent Workers Party candidates. But the only serious effort to engage non Muslim opinion is through the far left. So outside the Muslim communities the issue is nowhere much (although the Greens are using it as a wedge issue with Labour). |
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Post by right on Jun 24, 2024 20:19:18 GMT
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Post by bsjmcr on Jun 24, 2024 20:23:25 GMT
I think even Viz couldn't make up a leaflet like the above, no disrespect to the Pope... I was thinking at first Littleborough is a less fertile area for him and that he wouldn't bother fishing for votes there... but I have been proved wrong and rest assured he's putting it on the map with his Green Tourism initiative - they now just need to worry about Just Stop Oil pouring orange paint into Hollingworth Lake before long... Also love the sub-headline " George Galloway was Rochdale's MP for just 54 sitting days"
...not really a sentence he intended to have in isolation? Perhaps tempting fate... that has to be right up there with 'Unwanted, unnecessary, opportunistic' |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 24, 2024 20:25:57 GMT
I think even Viz couldn't make up a leaflet like the above, no disrespect to the Pope... I was thinking at first Littleborough is a less fertile area for him and that he wouldn't bother fishing for votes there... but I have been proved wrong and rest assured he's putting it on the map with his Green Tourism initiative - they now just need to worry about Just Stop Oil pouring orange paint into Hollingworth Lake before long... Green tourism - in Littleborough?! |
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