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Post by right on Jun 2, 2024 11:34:26 GMT
If Shaheen stands as IND yes, IDS will win probably Lab party office in Chingford paint sprayed overnight "Isreal (sic) lobby work for us" Deplorable and unacceptable. Even if this scenario happens, the chances of Sir Iain Duncan Smith holding on are slim, especially given demographic change and his arguably negative reputation. He hasn't got a negative reputation locally. He's an assiduous MP and would have lost in 2019 if he weren't. And his tough love approach to welfare claimants is pretty much exactly where swing voters in marginal seats sit. Admittedly it may not be enough to save him now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 11:58:53 GMT
I understand, from someone in the seat reasonably close to Shaheen, that she WILL stand as an Independent. Chingford has been removed from WmHills betting list. 5/2 now IDS, from 9/2 at Lads. The quiet man is listening. |
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Post by adlai52 on Jun 2, 2024 12:40:50 GMT
I suspect an independent run from Shaheen would not make a huge impact - demographic change and the poor Tory polling (although probably a bit better in outer London than nationally) mean IDS is starting on the back foot and a hard left candidate would need to hoover up 5-10% to swing the seat - there has been no sign in the past of hard left candidates doing that in this seat.
It does potentially divert from hard left activists away from Islington North and might be a good test of 'twitter vs real life'.
Also the Workers Party have a candidate selected for the seat, so I assume they would stand down?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 12:47:43 GMT
The Greens are running here and IDS would surely have had a bigger majority in 2019 if they stood then - they got 1,200 votes in 2017.
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 2, 2024 12:59:47 GMT
Faiza Shaheen is not Jeremy Corbyn, or Diane Abbott, or George Galloway, or even Akhmed Yaqoob. She would get a derisory vote if she stood as an independent, and would make no difference to the result.
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Post by norflondon on Jun 2, 2024 13:12:49 GMT
If she did stand, one wonders if she would have access to the voters lists / intentions she has accumulated since July 2018 , or if her team has there has kept the intel separately.
She was on the radio this afternoon. Confirmed standing could be on. "Of course it's a possibility!"
Agree with others, can't really expect to win but is likely to get 3,000 votes plus.
A shocking thing she says is she fears for her professional career / job if she keeps pushing it! (She's an academic at the LSE)
I personally think she will NOT stand. If you consider she cannot expect to win, her standing will make little difference to the issue she cares most about. The two likely winners are materially indistinguishable on the issue. And in fact facilitating an IDS win would be a worse outcome.
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Post by noorderling on Jun 2, 2024 13:30:35 GMT
If she did stand, one wonders if she would have access to the voters lists / intentions she has accumulated since July 2018 , or if her team has there has kept the intel separately. She was on the radio this afternoon. Confirmed standing could be on. "Of course it's a possibility!" Agree with others, can't really expect to win but is likely to get 3,000 votes plus. A shocking thing she says is she fears for her professional career / job if she keeps pushing it! (She's an academic at the LSE) I personally think she will NOT stand. If you consider she cannot expect to win, her standing will make little difference to the issue she cares most about. The two likely winners are materially indistinguishable on the issue. And in fact facilitating an IDS win would be a worse outcome. Some interesting privacy questions may emerge over who owns what and who can use what. |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 2, 2024 13:34:30 GMT
Shaheen just stated that Labour party election canvassers just knocked on her door! Lol
But tbf I guess since Friday they have had her down as undecided.
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Post by cogload on Jun 2, 2024 14:16:09 GMT
Shaheen just stated that Labour party election canvassers just knocked on her door! Lol But tbf I guess since Friday they have had her down as undecided. So Labour are already putting the leg work in for the new candidate and she is tweeting about it. Ok. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jun 2, 2024 14:24:54 GMT
If she did stand, one wonders if she would have access to the voters lists / intentions she has accumulated since July 2018 , or if her team has there has kept the intel separately. She was on the radio this afternoon. Confirmed standing could be on. "Of course it's a possibility!" Agree with others, can't really expect to win but is likely to get 3,000 votes plus. A shocking thing she says is she fears for her professional career / job if she keeps pushing it! (She's an academic at the LSE)I personally think she will NOT stand. If you consider she cannot expect to win, her standing will make little difference to the issue she cares most about. The two likely winners are materially indistinguishable on the issue. And in fact facilitating an IDS win would be a worse outcome.
She's obviously delusional if she think it's at risk from standing against Labour. Seems to me Labour have probably made the right choice here, however noisy she is being about it.
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Post by right on Jun 2, 2024 14:27:29 GMT
If she did stand, one wonders if she would have access to the voters lists / intentions she has accumulated since July 2018 , or if her team has there has kept the intel separately. She was on the radio this afternoon. Confirmed standing could be on. "Of course it's a possibility!" Agree with others, can't really expect to win but is likely to get 3,000 votes plus. A shocking thing she says is she fears for her professional career / job if she keeps pushing it! (She's an academic at the LSE)I personally think she will NOT stand. If you consider she cannot expect to win, her standing will make little difference to the issue she cares most about. The two likely winners are materially indistinguishable on the issue. And in fact facilitating an IDS win would be a worse outcome.
She's obviously delusional if she think it's at risk from standing against Labour. Seems to me Labour have probably made the right choice here, however noisy she is being about it.
That's not obviously delusional Career progression can easily be blocked in academia But it's also a handy excuse (perhaps to herself) when she realises that she won't make a difference to the result |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 2, 2024 14:49:09 GMT
Shaheen just stated that Labour party election canvassers just knocked on her door! Lol But tbf I guess since Friday they have had her down as undecided. Her photographing and sharing said photographs of the innocent canvassers says a lot about her repulsive personality. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 2, 2024 14:49:36 GMT
Faiza Shaheen is not Jeremy Corbyn, or Diane Abbott, or George Galloway, or even Akhmed Yaqoob. She would get a derisory vote if she stood as an independent, and would make no difference to the result. She has an ego the size of the Titanic, let her sink. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 2, 2024 14:57:56 GMT
Shaheen just stated that Labour party election canvassers just knocked on her door! Lol But tbf I guess since Friday they have had her down as undecided. Her photographing and sharing said photographs of the innocent canvassers says a lot about her repulsive personality. No. You just don't like pro-Palestinians. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 2, 2024 15:12:03 GMT
Her photographing and sharing said photographs of the innocent canvassers says a lot about her repulsive personality. No. You just don't like pro-Palestinians. What the fuck does Palestine have to do with this? I don't like it when Faiza, who has a social media following, shares a photograph of a completely innocent woman to ridicule her. That woman was using her precious and finite spare time to do what she thinks is best for the country. The people who display that sort of civic mindedness should be applauded, not bullied and hounded by an online mob. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 2, 2024 15:22:37 GMT
No. You just don't like pro-Palestinians. What the fuck does Palestine have to do with this? I don't like it when Faiza, who has a social media following, shares a photograph of a completely innocent woman to ridicule her. That woman was using her precious and finite spare time to do what she thinks is best for the country. The people who display that sort of civic mindedness should be applauded, not bullied and hounded by an online mob. It's not her "repulsive personality" but your/her views. Do you know her? As for the "best for the country", no chance! |
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Post by cogload on Jun 2, 2024 15:42:53 GMT
There is no connection between a thin strip of land ruled by a virulent anti everything (including gay people) religious death cult and someone canvassing on a Sunday.
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Post by mboy on Jun 2, 2024 16:57:45 GMT
She's obviously delusional if she think it's at risk from standing against Labour. Seems to me Labour have probably made the right choice here, however noisy she is being about it.
That's not obviously delusional Career progression can easily be blocked in academia Not simply for being a left-winger it can't - that's a career *positive* in any university in the West. The majority of all academic staff will be to the left of Starmer. |
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Post by redtony on Jun 2, 2024 21:16:35 GMT
it largely depends onn the attitude of the CL:P officers of course they attitude of the CLP officers of course they are furious but their desire to get rid of IDS will over ride this and accept thr new candidate and campaign to campaign for labour to win in chingford
Abd we have2 not heard from Stella
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