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Post by sanders on Aug 1, 2024 1:53:43 GMT
Friendly reminder to folks that the richest parts of New York City never returned to voting Republican. It’s no guarantee the Tories win this back but they just might. Fulham is (understatement of the century) quite a different place to Chelsea and in a way behaved more like the Wandsworth seats to a degree. It has a lot more old terraces broken up into flats while Chelsea’s issue for the Tories is that many of the grand townhouses aren’t lived in, but maybe (and this is a big maybe), cracking down on non doms might reduce the level of absentee landlordism in this seat. It’s notable how electorates change and until 1997, we had Chelsea and Fulham as separate seats. Pete Whitehead how did those seats vote? |
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Post by redtony on Aug 1, 2024 20:38:25 GMT
Yes Labour are going to start canvassing for 2026 and 2029 next month
There are some very rich Tories around Putney Bridge and Parsons Green as well as Chelsea
This was the first time ever Labour canvassed Chelsea Apart from Chelsea Riverside
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Post by batman on Aug 1, 2024 20:52:43 GMT
well not quite ever. There was certainly canvassing in the rest of Chelsea in the by-election won by Michael Portillo a generation ago.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 1, 2024 20:52:55 GMT
Yes Labour are going to start canvassing for 2026 and 2029 next month There are some very rich Tories around Putney Bridge and Parsons Green as well as Chelsea This was the first time ever Labour canvassed Chelsea Apart from Chelsea RiversideI doubt it's the first time ever, but possibly for a while. Remember Bertrand Russell was the Labour candidate in 1923, and his wife Dora replaced him in 1924. 
"Darling, there's a world famous philosopher at the door with some leaflets".
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Post by redtony on Aug 2, 2024 19:58:40 GMT
agreed I should have said in living memory parts of chelsea were working class a 100 years ago
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Post by iang on Aug 5, 2024 10:40:08 GMT
Yes Labour are going to start canvassing for 2026 and 2029 next month There are some very rich Tories around Putney Bridge and Parsons Green as well as Chelsea This was the first time ever Labour canvassed Chelsea Apart from Chelsea RiversideI doubt it's the first time ever, but possibly for a while. Remember Bertrand Russell was the Labour candidate in 1923, and his wife Dora replaced him in 1924.
"Darling, there's a world famous philosopher at the door with some leaflets".
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 5, 2024 10:47:45 GMT
I doubt it's the first time ever, but possibly for a while. Remember Bertrand Russell was the Labour candidate in 1923, and his wife Dora replaced him in 1924.
"Darling, there's a world famous philosopher at the door with some leaflets".
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 5, 2024 11:07:06 GMT
It was Bertrand Russell's generation who were the exception - his grandfather was a Liberal Prime Minister, his father was a Liberal MP, but he, his wife and his brother were all Labour politicians. Liberal affiliation was resumed with his younger son and then on down.
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Post by iang on Aug 5, 2024 11:20:22 GMT
Not quite entirely. Conrad's eldest son was Labour, but died fairly young and without issue, but his younger son is a Lib Dem peer and was previously a Lib Dem Councillor in Lewisham
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Post by londonseal80 on Aug 6, 2024 18:40:28 GMT
I think there’s a chance the Tories may lose Kensington and Chelsea to NOC in 2026. There was quite a large swing to them in a few wards in 2022, Affluent Inner London is getting less monolithically Tory and what has happened in Wimbledon, could in the long term start to happen places like Putney, Chiswick, Fulham, Chelsea, South Kensington and Westminster.
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Post by batman on Aug 6, 2024 20:13:41 GMT
I still think it's only an outside chance. Labour seems to do better in general elections in the borough, in recent years
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Post by redtony on Aug 6, 2024 20:33:10 GMT
labour will soon identify the wards they think they won in Chelsea and Fulham
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 6, 2024 21:23:38 GMT
labour will soon identify the wards they think they won in Chelsea and Fulham They'll find them in Fulham |
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Post by sanders on Aug 6, 2024 21:55:01 GMT
NOC will be incredibly tough, as you would need the Lib Dems to surge in wards like Pembridge which has always been Tory. I think NOC will require re-warding.
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Post by jamie on Aug 6, 2024 23:12:05 GMT
labour will soon identify the wards they think they won in Chelsea and Fulham They'll find them in Fulham And given they only won by 7% in Kensington, I’m not sure there’s many wards for them to realistically gain in less favourable circumstances than last month. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 6, 2024 23:47:46 GMT
The boundaries of the borough are drawn rather more favourably for them than any constituency in the area.
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Post by edgbaston on Aug 7, 2024 0:37:17 GMT
The boundaries of the borough are drawn rather more favourably for them than any constituency in the area. It’s funny these local government condensifications since the millennium (not that I support them), pushing neighbouring authorities together, never seem to touch London. You’d have thought Kensington would have been seen as too small, and neighbouring another authority that is also a little small, the two pushed together. |
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Post by YL on Aug 7, 2024 7:04:22 GMT
There's been chatter about the Tories losing Kensington & Chelsea before both the last two elections, and it hasn't come close to happening, even as they lost Westminster and Wandsworth last time. I think the point is that much of the Tory vote there is of a rather different nature even from that in other affluent parts of London, and considerably stickier and less temptable by the Lib Dems.
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Post by iainbhx on Aug 7, 2024 7:17:41 GMT
The boundaries of the borough are drawn rather more favourably for them than any constituency in the area. It’s funny these local government condensifications since the millennium (not that I support them), pushing neighbouring authorities together, never seem to touch London. You’d have thought Kensington would have been seen as too small, and neighbouring another authority that is also a little small, the two pushed together. Because most of them have been done for financial reasons and K&C really does not have any serious money troubles. |
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Post by batman on Aug 7, 2024 8:57:51 GMT
NOC will be incredibly tough, as you would need the Lib Dems to surge in wards like Pembridge which has always been Tory. I think NOC will require re-warding. Pembridge is an outside bet for Labour too. But I'd agree in general |
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