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Post by aargauer on Aug 18, 2024 20:13:01 GMT
I think it's asking an awful lot psychologically for Truss to accept that her fundamental approach to the British economy was wrong and led not to prosperity but to economic and political disaster. But it is nevertheless true. The markets are not politically motivated and they did not care for her unfounded tax cuts. Any Tory should respect that.
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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 21:09:42 GMT
Very much the Tories’ Jo Swinson.
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Post by kevinf on Aug 18, 2024 21:44:43 GMT
Very much the Tories’ Jo Swinson. You do realise you don’t have to comment on everything, don’t you?
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Post by sanders on Aug 18, 2024 21:45:40 GMT
Very much the Tories’ Jo Swinson. You do realise you don’t have to comment on everything, don’t you? I’m just speaking my mind. She had strong girly swot vibes.
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Post by maxque on Aug 18, 2024 22:15:49 GMT
I think it's asking an awful lot psychologically for Truss to accept that her fundamental approach to the British economy was wrong and led not to prosperity but to economic and political disaster. But it is nevertheless true. The markets are not politically motivated and they did not care for her unfounded tax cuts. Any Tory should respect that. Any anybody bringing up Thatcher should be reminded she spent a whole parliament setting things up, compromising and meticulously preparing her plans before doing them.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 19, 2024 0:09:21 GMT
Very much the Tories’ Jo Swinson. Who? Liz Truss? Of core snot. Jo Swinson was a deluded fantasist but she wasn’t an insane plastic alien.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 19, 2024 12:41:07 GMT
I think it's asking an awful lot psychologically for Truss to accept that her fundamental approach to the British economy was wrong and led not to prosperity but to economic and political disaster. But it is nevertheless true. The markets are not politically motivated and they did not care for her unfounded tax cuts. Any Tory should respect that. Your man from the Debt Office said that the fundamental problem that politicians have is that they forget that the bond market is, at its simplest, made up of people's opinions. And that it is rather silly to rage against it. Truss won't be the last one to actively stick her head through this noose.
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 22, 2024 0:25:53 GMT
Liz Truss's share was down by 43.4 percentage points. The Tories' worst drop in share in 1997 was 24.7 points in Tatton.
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Post by heslingtonian on Aug 22, 2024 8:20:07 GMT
Liz Truss's share was down by 43.4 percentage points. The Tories' worst drop in share in 1997 was 24.7 points in Tatton. I think this was the largest % Conservative vote share fall anywhere. Is that correct?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 22, 2024 8:23:33 GMT
Clacton was down 44.4% although that doesn't account for boundary changes.
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Post by jakegb on Aug 22, 2024 8:25:05 GMT
Liz Truss's share was down by 43.4 percentage points. The Tories' worst drop in share in 1997 was 24.7 points in Tatton. I think this was the largest % Conservative vote share fall anywhere. Is that correct? Clacton was 44.4%.
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Post by heslingtonian on Aug 22, 2024 9:11:53 GMT
Clacton was down 44.4% although that doesn't account for boundary changes. I also think the circumstances there were even more sui generis than here
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 22, 2024 9:56:39 GMT
I think this was the largest % Conservative vote share fall anywhere. Is that correct? Clacton was 44.4%. Very inauspicious in Chinese numerology!
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Post by cathyc on Aug 22, 2024 9:58:43 GMT
Very inauspicious in Chinese numerology! And cricket.
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 22, 2024 11:25:08 GMT
I think this was the largest % Conservative vote share fall anywhere. Is that correct? Clacton was 44.4%. I think Clacton was a 44.0 point drop (or 43.98 to 2 dec places).
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Post by batman on Aug 22, 2024 11:53:32 GMT
Very inauspicious in Chinese numerology! And cricket. remind me please why 44.4 is inauspicious in cricket
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Post by cathyc on Aug 22, 2024 13:07:20 GMT
remind me please why 44.4 is inauspicious in cricket Is it not a form of 'Nelson'?
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Post by batman on Aug 22, 2024 13:20:44 GMT
oh I see. Yes according to some including the late David Shepherd 444 is inauspicious, but once you've got 444 runs you're generally in pretty good shape.
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Post by swingometer on Aug 22, 2024 13:33:03 GMT
Anyone know where the election map without Reform is please, it’s on this site somewhere
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Post by john07 on Aug 22, 2024 17:38:08 GMT
remind me please why 44.4 is inauspicious in cricket Is it not a form of 'Nelson'? Two fifths of a Nelson? One fifth or three twentieth or one tenth of a Nelson would also work. I have heard of a half Nelson but not from cricket.
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