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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 22, 2024 9:36:55 GMT
Sometimes it seems as though (almost) every failed right-leaning figure in British politics swims across the pond and dips their toes in American politics. In Truss' case it is simultaneously great content and quite pathetic. Who else did you have in mind? Steve Hilton would probably count. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 22, 2024 9:49:51 GMT
Who else did you have in mind? Steve Hilton would probably count. Douglas Carswell, now President/ CEO of the Mississippi Center for Public Policy. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 27, 2024 23:16:40 GMT
Les Huckfield chose not to seek renomination in Nuneaton for 1983 because of the assumed effect of boundary changes and tried, unsuccessfully, to get nominated in Sedgefield (among a range of other places). Also Wigan, where Roger Stott, whose Westhoughton constituency had been abolished, was selected instead. Mr Huckfield had a point, though, because boundary changes contributed to the Conservatives winning Nuneaton in 1983. Stott's situation was different to Huckfield's: the redrawn Wigan seat included some of the old Westhoughton seat (specifically Aspull and Standish) so he had a reasonable claim on it. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 27, 2024 23:42:33 GMT
Les Huckfield chose not to seek renomination in Nuneaton for 1983 because of the assumed effect of boundary changes and tried, unsuccessfully, to get nominated in Sedgefield (among a range of other places). Also Wigan, where Roger Stott, whose Westhoughton constituency had been abolished, was selected instead. Mr Huckfield had a point, though, because boundary changes contributed to the Conservatives winning Nuneaton in 1983. Boundary changes reduced the Lab maj in Nuneaton from 12.2% to 2.8%. The new North Warwickshire seat had a notional Lab maj of 5.9%, (which does slightly raise the question of what happened to all of that 12.2% majority from Oct 1974). |
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Post by hullenedge on Aug 12, 2024 15:36:12 GMT
A decent read of the count:-
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Post by heslingtonian on Aug 12, 2024 15:48:32 GMT
A decent read of the count:- So Truss couldn't even be competent enough to arrive at the election count on time. On one level we should be surprised but on another level I'm not. Terry Jermy, who comes across as a decent man, has done our country a great service. |
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 12, 2024 16:08:15 GMT
I’m not sure he is quite right about the count tbh, in my experience there is often a considerable delay between the actual counting “the count was finished at 5 am” and the call for candidates and agents and the declation whilst multiple checks are made “they were sort of shuffling papers on the tables” my memory (which given the time would be hazy) is that the delay was between calling the the candidtes on to the stage, so presumably the agents and candidates if present had been given the result. and Truss arriving on stage, we have only her word that she didn’t arrive until the last minute
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 12, 2024 16:16:05 GMT
There were definitely irritated mutterings overnight that she hadn't shown up yet. Essentially this sort of thing is just confirmation.
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Post by sanders on Aug 12, 2024 17:57:18 GMT
A lettuce in a red rosette…
…would have beaten Liz Truss honestly.
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Post by aargauer on Aug 12, 2024 18:04:00 GMT
A lettuce in a red rosette… …would have beaten Liz Truss honestly. And a lettuce in a blue rosette would have held the seat! |
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Post by sanders on Aug 12, 2024 18:11:30 GMT
A lettuce in a red rosette… …would have beaten Liz Truss honestly. And a lettuce in a blue rosette would have held the seat! No EU migrants to pick them |
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Post by batman on Aug 12, 2024 18:20:55 GMT
Bearing in mind the closeness of the result it's fairly obvious that if Labour had picked a less suitable candidate Truss could just about have held on.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 12, 2024 18:26:51 GMT
I’m not sure he is quite right about the count tbh, in my experience there is often a considerable delay between the actual counting “the count was finished at 5 am” and the call for candidates and agents and the declation whilst multiple checks are made “they were sort of shuffling papers on the tables” my memory (which given the time would be hazy) is that the delay was between calling the the candidtes on to the stage, so presumably the agents and candidates if present had been given the result. and Truss arriving on stage, we have only her word that she didn’t arrive until the last minute When Gavin Barwell held his seat in Croydon Central in 2015, there was enough time for him to wake up his two eldest children and drive from his home to Croydon town centre (about 3 miles) after being told that he had won before arriving for the declaration. |
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Post by heslingtonian on Aug 12, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
The McDonald's anecdote speaks to a wider point with Truss and several other Conservative politicians of recent times - a profound lack of seriousness when it came to discharging their duties. It's ironic that even as she was being unceremoniously relieved of these duties, Truss continued to show a lack of seriousness all the way to the end of her term of office. It is going to continue to astonish people for generations that someone like this could become the UK's Prime Minister.
It also shows to me that Truss could only have become Prime Minister once a distinctly unserious figure like Johnson had already crossed that particular threshold. It would have been unthinkable for Theresa May or Gordon Brown to have been sitting in a McDonald's as their election result was about to be read out or for John Major or Tony Blair to take the wrong voter ID to prevent them from voting.
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Post by john07 on Aug 12, 2024 22:41:32 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if Johnson deliberately failed to take his voter id to get a bit of publicity. It’s the way he operates.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 16, 2024 14:03:37 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Aug 16, 2024 14:51:14 GMT
It would have been more fun if Liz Truss had come third
or fourth
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Post by johnloony on Aug 16, 2024 15:04:58 GMT
I wonder what Liz Truss will be doing in 10 or 20 years time?
i hope for her sake that she finds something ordinary to do, instead of going down a rabbit-hole of hard-right conspiracy madness
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Post by Dave Morgan on Aug 16, 2024 15:32:30 GMT
I wonder what Liz Truss will be doing in 10 or 20 years time? i hope for her sake that she finds something ordinary to do, instead of going down a rabbit-hole of hard-right conspiracy madness She really has gone down the rabbit hole of delusion. When I met her years before she was PM, I thought she was a bit odd, but no where near as bonkers as she’s proven to be. |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 16, 2024 16:18:47 GMT
It would have been more fun if Liz Truss had come third or fourth Well this is true, but you can't have everything John. |
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