Defections to UKIP

[erlend]

Aren't they very often people who have fallen out within the Labour Party and therefore not that right wing?

[greenchristian]

Jun 7, 2013 16:56:35 GMT erlend said:

Aren't they very often people who have fallen out within the Labour Party and therefore not that right wing?

Being in the Labour Party and being right wing aren't mutually exclusive, you know. Particularly since the New Labour project turned them from a left-wing party into a centrist one.

[Merseymike]

Some are the remnants of the old Progressive or Ratepayers groups which is how many Tories stood for election in the hope of beating Labour.

[Devonian]

www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news/local/tory-polegate-town-councillor-defects-to-ukip-1-5167339

[Merseymike]

Yes, I wasn't sure whether the South Shields ones were in this category or not. Probably personality clashes. Not sure when the Progressives disappeared...

[Pete Whitehead]

I have seen on Twitter a suggestion that Stanley Steinwald, Independent coucnillor for Hatch End (elected as COnservative) has joined UKIP

edit: and here is a more concrete report www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/10475134.Independent_councillor_joins_UKIP/

[ColinJ]

Jun 10, 2013 17:23:08 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

I have seen on Twitter a suggestion that Stanley Steinwald, Independent coucnillor for Hatch End (elected as COnservative) has joined UKIP

edit: and here is a more concrete report www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/10475134.Independent_councillor_joins_UKIP/

Your posting beat me to it Pete! The Banana Republic of Harrow strikes again! More flippin' updates needed to my site......

[Deleted]

I have seen a lot of opportunists join the SNP over the last few years and have a feeling they will ditch the Nats when it suits them, will it be the same with these guys that are joining UKIP.

[Pimpernal]

Jun 10, 2013 13:17:46 GMT Merseymike said:

Yes, I wasn't sure whether the South Shields ones were in this category or not. Probably personality clashes. Not sure when the Progressives disappeared...

Wow - when one presumption is blown out of the water just jump to another ready-made stand by presumption!

I suppose once you find out it's not personality clashes, it'll be 'probably facing deselection' even if they were independents!

[Merseymike]

Oh I'm just very sceptical about people who leave the party they were elected to represent. If their party has determinedly changed direction then fine but it's very rarely got those reasons which is why so many directors work their way through a sequence of affiliations. In any case Independents can't claim to be independent unless they sure exactly that - no alliances.

At least South Shields now has a right wing opposition party not just a lone councillor!

[Pimpernal]

Oh - have Labour gone into opposition then? How odd!

[anthony]

I understand from Twitter that Cllr Rod Scott from Merton has now gone from independent to UKIP (former Tory)

[East Anglian Lefty]

Jun 10, 2013 23:14:47 GMT @jimboo said:

I have seen a lot of opportunists join the SNP over the last few years and have a feeling they will ditch the Nats when it suits them, will it be the same with these guys that are joining UKIP.

Doubtful. The Nats looked like the obvious national party of government in Scotland for a brief window, and may yet still be. Even at their most organised, UKIP don't even look like a plausible council administration anywhere.

[Devonian]

www.itv.com/news/central/update/2013-06-20/three-councillors-join-ukip/

Three members of the Rutland Anti-Corruption Group of Councillors are joining UKIP at a meeting with party leader Nigel Farage.

Cllr Richard Gale, Cllr David Richardson and Cllr Nick Wainwright will provide the official opposition on the County Council.

UKIP is the obvious choice, as it supports the same ideals as ourselves; those of honesty, integrity, openness and transparency, along with upholding the fundamental principles of democracy. UKIP also doesnot impose a whip, thus allowing Councillors to exercise their own judgement and vote in line with the wishes of their electorate.

We believe, as does UKIP, that Local Government has to be returned to the people and must no longer rest with the bureaucrats, working too closely with Council Leaderships, bureaucrats who do nothing but use thetools of burdensome bureaucracy, created by them, to suit nothing more than their own agendas and interests and most certainly not those of the people.

[Tony Otim]

ITV can't even get their headline right - they weren't Tories, at least not recently, I don't know about ever.

[iainbhx]

I read that as Rutland Weekend Television :-)

[Devonian]

www.cheshire-today.co.uk/17098/cheshire-east-councillor-defects-to-ukip/

Cheshire East Councillor Brian Silvester, a former Deputy Leader of the Council, has joined the UK Independence Party.The former Conservative Councillor, who has served for 37 years, has made his decision because of his belief it is “time for fresh start” in the area.

Coun Silvester, who represents the Willaston and Rope Ward, has been formally welcomed to UKIP by Cheshire chair Coun Louise Bours

[Tony Otim]

There's a definite pattern here - prior to the elections in May UKIP were picking up a lot of defectors straight from (mainly) the Conservatives, more recently they seem to have attracted quite a number who have already gone independant - it almost feels like it could be targetted recruitment...

[solihullratepayer]

Jun 24, 2013 13:12:29 GMT Devonian said:

www.cheshire-today.co.uk/17098/cheshire-east-councillor-defects-to-ukip/

Cheshire East Councillor Brian Silvester, a former Deputy Leader of the Council, has joined the UK Independence Party.The former Conservative Councillor, who has served for 37 years, has made his decision because of his belief it is “time for fresh start” in the area.

Coun Silvester, who represents the Willaston and Rope Ward, has been formally welcomed to UKIP by Cheshire chair Coun Louise Bours

sounds like a catch ! politicalscrapbook.net/2013/06/latest-ukip-recruit-brian-silvester-is-convicted-slum-landlord/
would any other party accept him ?javascript:void(0);

[gwynthegriff]

Jun 25, 2013 7:58:42 GMT solihullratepayer said:

Jun 24, 2013 13:12:29 GMT Devonian said:

www.cheshire-today.co.uk/17098/cheshire-east-councillor-defects-to-ukip/

sounds like a catch ! politicalscrapbook.net/2013/06/latest-ukip-recruit-brian-silvester-is-convicted-slum-landlord/
would any other party accept him ?javascript:void(0);

Quite.

It's probably guaranteed that nobody else from Cheshire East will be joining UKIP!