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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 27, 2023 12:35:40 GMT
Not exactly comparable to the Admiralty in September 1939, is it.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 27, 2023 13:42:59 GMT
I had hoped that New Zealand would stick with its policy of banning tobacco, at least for a few years, to see how well it is going to work in practice (or whether it's an unenforceable mess). If they are now going to scrap the policy already, it's going to make Rishi Sunak look silly for copying the policy. Is that what Winston Luxon really wants?
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 27, 2023 13:47:10 GMT
And in a first victory for the tail wagging the dog, the government is cancelling the staggered smoking ban simply to raise more taxation as the smaller parties have insisted on both this repeal and blocked action to open up foreign property ownership that would otherwise have provided the funds. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67540190I look forward to PR campaigners here highlighting this and telling us all why this is such a great outcome of AMS. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 27, 2023 15:10:10 GMT
And in a first victory for the tail wagging the dog, the government is cancelling the staggered smoking ban simply to raise more taxation as the smaller parties have insisted on both this repeal and blocked action to open up foreign property ownership that would otherwise have provided the funds. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67540190I look forward to PR campaigners here highlighting this and telling us all why this is such a great outcome of AMS. It is a great outcome regardless of the BBC spin - they can't report anything neutrally can they? |
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Post by ibfc on Nov 27, 2023 16:07:00 GMT
And in a first victory for the tail wagging the dog, the government is cancelling the staggered smoking ban simply to raise more taxation as the smaller parties have insisted on both this repeal and blocked action to open up foreign property ownership that would otherwise have provided the funds. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67540190I look forward to PR campaigners here highlighting this and telling us all why this is such a great outcome of AMS. It’s a wonderful advertisement for PR. Makes it more difficult to capture mass based parties and push through unpopular policies. |
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Post by aargauer on Nov 27, 2023 18:18:09 GMT
And in a first victory for the tail wagging the dog, the government is cancelling the staggered smoking ban simply to raise more taxation as the smaller parties have insisted on both this repeal and blocked action to open up foreign property ownership that would otherwise have provided the funds. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67540190I look forward to PR campaigners here highlighting this and telling us all why this is such a great outcome of AMS. It is a great outcome regardless of the BBC spin - they can't report anything neutrally can they? They still vaguely attempt to be party politically neutral but on issues they have up a long, long time ago. It's not even vaguely neutral. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 27, 2023 20:32:42 GMT
And in a first victory for the tail wagging the dog, the government is cancelling the staggered smoking ban simply to raise more taxation as the smaller parties have insisted on both this repeal and blocked action to open up foreign property ownership that would otherwise have provided the funds. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67540190I look forward to PR campaigners here highlighting this and telling us all why this is such a great outcome of AMS. It is a great outcome regardless of the BBC spin - they can't report anything neutrally can they? Maybe but it's a reflection of the way the PR movement here tends to focus on progressive pin-up governments and countries and doesn't often stop to say "look at this right wing government abroad, elected by PR, and the wonders they're doing". Note how little, say, Benjamin Netanyahu features in the typical arguments. |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Nov 28, 2023 0:26:43 GMT
I had hoped that New Zealand would stick with its policy of banning tobacco, at least for a few years, to see how well it is going to work in practice (or whether it's an unenforceable mess). If they are now going to scrap the policy already, it's going to make Rishi Sunak look silly for copying the policy. Is that what Winston Luxon really wants? Sunak IS “silly” (plenty of other words also apply) for copying this illiberal and nonsensical policy. Just another reason why I want him out and never let near the levers of power ever again. |
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Post by stb12 on Nov 29, 2023 9:24:39 GMT
Here are some details of the National, ACT and NZF coalition agreement thespinoff.co.nz/politics/24-11-2023/the-coalition-deal-at-a-glanceACT and and NZF get three ministers each inside cabinet with ACT also getting two outside and NZF one. David Seymour is Minister for Regulation while Winston Peters returns to Foreign Affairs. Peters will be Deputy Prime Minister until May 2025 then Seymour will take over that role for the rest of the term |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 29, 2023 21:26:43 GMT
20+8+2=30 ministers & stateSecretaries for 5 million people...
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 29, 2023 21:30:36 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Nov 29, 2023 23:07:25 GMT
20+8+2=30 ministers & stateSecretaries for 5 million people... Just be thankful that New Zealand never ended up as a federation in its own right. (Then again, think of the extra psephological data we'd be getting!) Now, if there were a landlocked confederal country in western Europe of around 8.7 million people that consisted of, ooh - say - 26 constituent parts, then that would really be silly. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 30, 2023 5:44:51 GMT
I never knew that New Ulster was a thing (or New Munster for that matter)
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Post by mrpastelito on Nov 30, 2023 10:53:39 GMT
20+8+2=30 ministers & stateSecretaries for 5 million people... Just be thankful that New Zealand never ended up as a federation in its own right. (Then again, think of the extra psephological data we'd be getting!) Now, if there were a landlocked confederal country in western Europe of around 8.7 million people that consisted of, ooh - say - 26 constituent parts, then that would really be silly. 9 million! |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 30, 2023 11:51:19 GMT
I never knew that New Ulster was a thing (or New Munster for that matter) Not forgetting New Leinster, which consisted in its entirety of Stewart Island and its associated islets. Today fewer than 500 people live there. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 30, 2023 12:10:46 GMT
I never knew that New Ulster was a thing (or New Munster for that matter) Not forgetting New Leinster, which consisted in its entirety of Stewart Island and its associated islets. Today fewer than 500 people live there. I actually know one of them |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 30, 2023 14:46:20 GMT
20+8+2=30 ministers & stateSecretaries for 5 million people... Just be thankful that New Zealand never ended up as a federation in its own right. (Then again, think of the extra psephological data we'd be getting!) Now, if there were a landlocked confederal country in western Europe of around 8.7 million people that consisted of, ooh - say - 26 constituent parts, then that would really be silly. Things were more fun when it was made up of 20 constituent parts and six consitutent half-parts. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 30, 2023 15:35:25 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Dec 2, 2023 20:55:30 GMT
Just be thankful that New Zealand never ended up as a federation in its own right. (Then again, think of the extra psephological data we'd be getting!) Now, if there were a landlocked confederal country in western Europe of around 8.7 million people that consisted of, ooh - say - 26 constituent parts, then that would really be silly. Things were more fun when it was made up of 20 constituent parts and six consitutent half-parts. I was trying to find a term that would encompass both the cantons and half-cantons. Perhaps I should've gone for 'jurisdictions' instead? |
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Post by ibfc on Dec 2, 2023 23:30:56 GMT
Things were more fun when it was made up of 20 constituent parts and six consitutent half-parts. I was trying to find a term that would encompass both the cantons and half-cantons. Perhaps I should've gone for 'jurisdictions' instead? Administrative Units? |
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