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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 22, 2023 20:42:21 GMT
Not many countries in which TV debates have such a provably huge impact on electoral outcomes. Denk had a boost as well. Their leader was on a state visit to Berlin in the last week. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 22, 2023 20:51:58 GMT
Does anyone have a reliable site for live results? Especially if the site has a municipal map with it.
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Post by rcronald on Nov 22, 2023 20:55:19 GMT
Full Exit poll results: Ipsos PVV - 35 PvdA/GL - 26 VVD - 23 NSC - 20 D66 - 10 BBB - 7 CDA - 5 SP - 5 PvdD - 4 FvD - 3 SGP - 3 CU - 3 Volt - 2 Denk - 2 JA21 - 1 50Plus - 1 2nd Ipsos exit poll: now with the last 30 minutes of voting Changes: VVD + 1 (24) PvdA/GL -1 (25) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 21:05:01 GMT
Does anyone have a reliable site for live results? Especially if the site has a municipal map with it. De Volkskrant has one you have to sign in to (and obviously it's in Dutch). I haven't found any others yet |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 21:05:56 GMT
Though Handelsblad have posted that the GL/PvdA list has topped the poll in the Frisian island of Schiermonikoog
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 21:10:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 21:42:52 GMT
Yesilgöz refused to rule out a coalition with Wilders, but had said that she "doesn't think he will become prime minister as she can't she how can form a majority"
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 22, 2023 22:08:06 GMT
He should offer to be her deputy and something powerful, like Interior Minister, with a few other key ministries handed to his people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:23:08 GMT
But who else is going to be in that coalition? I can't see VVD volunteering to go in with FvD and JA21 as well as PVV and I don't see anyone else agreeing to a coalition with PVV
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:27:06 GMT
PVV have claimed their first gemeente, Ameland, with NSC second, VVD third and PvdA/GL fourth. I think that's the first overall swing against the left of this election
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Post by right on Nov 22, 2023 22:47:38 GMT
He should offer to be her deputy and something powerful, like Interior Minister, with a few other key ministries handed to his people. Or perhaps a Denmark option where he sits on the sidelines with a center right minority government doing his bidding on a few headline areas and perhaps a couple of sops to core constituencies - outside the headline areas it's still largely a center right or even centrist government but he can say he's not really part of their unpopular decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 23:09:55 GMT
NSC have claimed their first gemeente as well (Winterswijk, Gelderland)
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2023 2:37:11 GMT
But who else is going to be in that coalition? I can't see VVD volunteering to go in with FvD and JA21 as well as PVV and I don't see anyone else agreeing to a coalition with PVV I’d be shocked if FvD ended up inside a coalition, and JA21 isn’t that extreme. |
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Post by maxque on Nov 23, 2023 3:31:56 GMT
But who else is going to be in that coalition? I can't see VVD volunteering to go in with FvD and JA21 as well as PVV and I don't see anyone else agreeing to a coalition with PVV I’d be shocked if FvD ended up inside a coalition, and JA21 isn’t that extreme. The VVD doesn't want to be in a coalition where all other members are to their right, through. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2023 4:23:01 GMT
I’d be shocked if FvD ended up inside a coalition, and JA21 isn’t that extreme. The VVD doesn't want to be in a coalition where all other members are to their right, through. Is NSC really to their right? I’d also add that they need CDA for their Senate seats. |
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Post by ibfc on Nov 23, 2023 5:20:03 GMT
Everything seems to be set for another election.
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Post by ibfc on Nov 23, 2023 5:37:26 GMT
Unsurprisingly, my options if I were Dutch are VVD, BBB, NSC, and JA21. (With VVD being the pretty clear favourite) That was fast. Took me straight to PVV. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2023 5:54:43 GMT
Unsurprisingly, my options if I were Dutch are VVD, BBB, NSC, and JA21. (With VVD being the pretty clear favourite) That was fast. Took me straight to PVV. From Kashmir to Istanbul 😉 |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 23, 2023 7:30:27 GMT
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Post by ibfc on Nov 23, 2023 8:05:07 GMT
Why’s NSC so strong in that pocket on the Western border?
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