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Post by nelson on Sept 10, 2022 14:36:43 GMT
Notable that the Greens have sent out last minute mail requests for "any kind of help" and fiscal contributions to people registered as "supporters" (not members) after the last Novus poll had them on 4.5% with a 0.7 point MoE, party co-leader Per Bolund writes that the situation is critical given that they usually underperform the polls.
A bit unusual (by Swedish standards), though of course important to mobilize and turn out supporters.
I'd be surprised if they end up falling below the threshold, but it could be close.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 10, 2022 20:44:06 GMT
All pollsters see by this saturDay (some polls will probably emerge in the sunDay-newsPapers tomorrow) midLeft minimally ahead: Looks likely, that C will finally have to acquiesce and accept V in government.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 10, 2022 20:48:55 GMT
In these ways the pollsters have erred in the last 20 years:
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Post by nelson on Sept 11, 2022 10:34:26 GMT
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Post by nelson on Sept 11, 2022 13:02:54 GMT
Reports of long queues, which will delay the counting. The reason is that Sweden has switched to a system where the ballots (one for each party in each of the three elections: national, regional and municipal) are placed behind a shield, so no one can see which ballot(s) the voter picks. Earlier you could either bring your ballots (provided by the parties) or pick them up at the precinct, but the latter meant others could see which ones you took (unless you picked up several for each election, but that was sometimes interpreted as intent to vote for the far right or far left). There has been widespread criticism that the old system made it harder to vote for controversial parties like SD.
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Post by rcronald on Sept 11, 2022 13:15:42 GMT
Reports of long queues, which will delay the counting. The reason is that Sweden has switched to a system where the ballots (one for each party in each of the three elections. national, regional and municipal) are placed behind a shield, so no one can see which ballot the voter picks. Earlier you could either bring your ballot (provided by the parties) or pick one up at the precinct, but the latter meant others could see which one you took (unless you picked up several, but that was sometimes interpreted as intent to vote for the far right or far left). There has been widespread criticism that the old system made it harder to vote for controversial parties like SD. I wonder how much S has benefited from the old system since 2014, as one would expect some apolitical SD tilting voters to support S because they did not want to be publicly associated with SD + social pressure. Note: it’s also a massive problem for the GOP with early mail voting, as I wouldn’t be surprised at all if some GOP leaning men voted Dem in 2020 early voting to appease their Dem voting wives.
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Post by nelson on Sept 11, 2022 14:03:53 GMT
Reports of long queues, which will delay the counting. The reason is that Sweden has switched to a system where the ballots (one for each party in each of the three elections: national, regional and municipal) are placed behind a shield, so no one can see which ballot(s) the voter picks. Earlier you could either bring your ballots (provided by the parties) or pick them up at the precinct, but the latter meant others could see which ones you took (unless you picked up several for each election, but that was sometimes interpreted as intent to vote for the far right or far left). There has been widespread criticism that the old system made it harder to vote for controversial parties like SD. The old system was clearly a violation of the idea of a secret ballot because as you say anyone could see which party ballot paper you were picking up. A team of international observers commented on it at a recent election IIRC> Yes, both the OSCE and the Council of Europe have criticized it.
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Post by WJ on Sept 11, 2022 15:52:12 GMT
Reports of long queues, which will delay the counting. The reason is that Sweden has switched to a system where the ballots (one for each party in each of the three elections: national, regional and municipal) are placed behind a shield, so no one can see which ballot(s) the voter picks. Earlier you could either bring your ballots (provided by the parties) or pick them up at the precinct, but the latter meant others could see which ones you took (unless you picked up several for each election, but that was sometimes interpreted as intent to vote for the far right or far left). There has been widespread criticism that the old system made it harder to vote for controversial parties like SD. All options were available at the embassy a few weeks ago. I swear I remember something similar when I was eligible to cast regional and local ballots in 2018- I.e. there were piles of party ballots in plain view, plus piles in private booths.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 11, 2022 16:02:41 GMT
Here is another compass: valkompass.svt.se/2022As devout Christian i ended with - the Liberals... But they and KD and SD were all around 58%.
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Post by aargauer on Sept 11, 2022 16:20:25 GMT
Reports of long queues, which will delay the counting. The reason is that Sweden has switched to a system where the ballots (one for each party in each of the three elections: national, regional and municipal) are placed behind a shield, so no one can see which ballot(s) the voter picks. Earlier you could either bring your ballots (provided by the parties) or pick them up at the precinct, but the latter meant others could see which ones you took (unless you picked up several for each election, but that was sometimes interpreted as intent to vote for the far right or far left). There has been widespread criticism that the old system made it harder to vote for controversial parties like SD. The old system was clearly a violation of the idea of a secret ballot because as you say anyone could see which party ballot paper you were picking up. A team of international observers commented on it at a recent election IIRC> Some cantons here have expressly public voting.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 11, 2022 16:22:28 GMT
M The moderates 76 %
SD The Sweden Democrats 76 %
KD The Christian Democrats 70 %
S The Social Democrats 63 %
L The Liberals 52 %
C The Center Party 40 %
M.P The Green Party 16 %
V The left party 12 %
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Post by aargauer on Sept 11, 2022 16:26:30 GMT
Here is another compass: valkompass.svt.se/2022As devout Christian i ended with - the Liberals... But they and KD and SD were all around 58%. I got the moderates, but had to skip a number of questions where I disagreed with the premise. M The moderates 68 % KD The Christian Democrats 61 % C The Center Party 61 % L The Liberals 55 % SD The Sweden Democrats 53 % S The Social Democrats 42 % M.P The Green Party 17 % V The left party 16 %
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 11, 2022 16:43:02 GMT
Left party 64 Greens. 60 Center. 59 Social Democrats. 54 Liberals. 49 Sweden Democrats. 29 Christian Democrats. 25 Moderates. 18
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Post by WJ on Sept 11, 2022 18:12:46 GMT
It's on a knife edge!
Exit poll:
V 25 -3 S 104 +4 MP 20 +4 C 27 -4 L 17 -3 KD 18 -4 M 66 -4 SD 72 +10
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 18:36:56 GMT
I like this graphic.
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Post by WJ on Sept 11, 2022 19:02:13 GMT
Minor comedy moment on the SVT live stream, where they turn up at the voting room in Falun to make sure that everything is going according to plan. Some very dour looking tellers were sorting votes in the background.
There was a minor scandal in 2018 when the postal service and the kommun authorities cocked things up, so over 1000 votes were not counted. Seems everything is going smoothly this time!
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Post by jamie on Sept 11, 2022 19:02:45 GMT
It's on a knife edge! Exit poll: V 25 -3 S 104 +4 MP 20 +4 C 27 -4 L 17 -3 KD 18 -4 M 66 -4 SD 72 +10 It says something about how narrow the result was last time that a knife edge projected result would see a swing to the government and a shift left in the median seat.
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Post by WJ on Sept 11, 2022 19:08:58 GMT
I notice that turnout has taken a hit: 77.8% vs 87.2% in 2018
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Post by Jonathan on Sept 11, 2022 19:51:13 GMT
I notice that turnout has taken a hit: 77.8% vs 87.2% in 2018 They said (on SVT) that it would tick up during the coming week by 4-5 points
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 11, 2022 20:08:53 GMT
11.000 voters were polled for the public broadCaster by the Kungliga Tekniska Högskolan (KTH) & Statsvetenskapliga Instutitionen (univ.Göteborg) in front of pollingStations: They traditionally have the elderly&blueCollars underrepresented. These are their voteStreams: www.svt.se/datajournalistik/valu2022/valjarstrommar/I recommend to have a fast look before they will weight these numbers in few hours.
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