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Post by nelson on Oct 12, 2022 19:02:14 GMT
Ulf Kristersson has reported back to the Speaker saying he's close to forming a government and only needs a couple of days more to finish the last details. He has requested that the PM vote be moved to Monday rather than Friday as previously suggested, but Sweden should have a government fairly soon. The main unanswered question is whether or not SD has caved and allowed the Liberals to join it.
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Post by nelson on Oct 14, 2022 16:26:23 GMT
The new centre-right government will include the Liberals, so the Moderates got their wish. The government agreement (called the Tidö Agreement) was presented today and SD has gotten significant concessions in return for accepting to stay out while the Liberals get in. PM vote on Monday.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2022 16:56:55 GMT
The new centre-right government will include the Liberals, so the Moderates got their wish. The government agreement (called the Tidö Agreement) was presented today and SD has gotten significant concessions in return for accepting to stay out while the Liberals get in. PM vote on Monday. What did SD get in return? |
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Post by nelson on Oct 14, 2022 17:13:54 GMT
Tthe Liberal youth org LUF demands that the party vote "No" on Kristersson in the PM vote calling the deal "authoritarian" and former party leader Maria Leissner says the deal "makes her cry", "we're watching the party die" & "I never thought I should see the day when authoritarian nationalism is infused in government policy with the help of my party", so clearly some strong reactions (also from local chairmen etc.). MPs mostly keeping a low profile right now, but at least two MPs, Anna Starbrink and Lina Nordquist, have said they'll vote against a national ban on begging, which means it won't have a majority.
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Post by nelson on Oct 14, 2022 17:38:07 GMT
The new centre-right government will include the Liberals, so the Moderates got their wish. The government agreement (called the Tidö Agreement) was presented today and SD has gotten significant concessions in return for accepting to stay out while the Liberals get in. PM vote on Monday. What did SD get in return? SD has gotten a lot of concessions, and the Liberals have hardly gotten anything. The agreement includes: no cuts to unemployment benefits (SD win) no tax cuts in the first year (SD win) a national census (which will clarify ethnic and demographic developments) visitation zones in cities inquiry into whether drug and alcohol abuse and prostitution can lead to deportation (that’s basically to test it would be possible within international conventions and EU rules) anonymous witnesses double penalty for gang related crimes a lot more surveillance cameras separate youth prisons to replace resocialisation focused “youth homes” big extension of the prison system and ability to hire prison capacity abroad inquiry into a national ban on begging. immigration and refugee policy lowered to EU’s minimum standard. asylum related residency will always be temporary (no permanent residency for refugees). harder to get citizenship (incl. general behaviour and ability to sustain oneself) more funding and incitements for voluntary repatriation, targeted the non-integrated. inquiry into tougher rules for deportation for crimes and antisocial behaviour (substance abuse, prostitution, and association with known criminals). quota refugees down from 6.4k to 900 annually. inquiry into establishing transit centers for asylum seekers (so they’ll be kept isolated from society while their case is being processed. labour migration only for those offered above media wages (that’s a pretty big concessions from the other three employer friendly parties). All those Swedish inquiries (where civil servants and experts look things over) make it a bit complex to assess that’ll actually be implemented, but there's no doubt it’s pretty good for SD and bad for the Liberals. Aid to developing countries is lowered, but not nearly as much as SD wanted, but that’s the only big Liberal “win” (and a fairly defensive one and on an area where KD agree with them). |
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Post by nelson on Oct 17, 2022 10:02:45 GMT
Kristersson elected PM by 176 to173 along party lines, no Liberal defectors.
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Post by matureleft on Oct 17, 2022 10:08:37 GMT
Kristersson elected PM by 176 to173 along party lines, no Liberal defectors. One might guess that that was one of the easier tasks in this enterprise? |
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Post by nelson on Oct 17, 2022 10:17:04 GMT
Kristersson elected PM by 176 to173 along party lines, no Liberal defectors. One might guess that that was one of the easier tasks in this enterprise? Yes, the Liberals had to vote for Kristersson after campaigning on making him PM, voting "no" would have split the party and both wings would have ended up below the threshold in the next election. But there'll be MPs rebelling on a number of judicial and immigration related issues, and it's not that likely that the party can stand being in government for a whole term imo. Their Stockholm branch already wants the leadership to call an extraordinary party council to "discuss" the agreement. |
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Post by ibfc on Oct 17, 2022 10:50:27 GMT
One might guess that that was one of the easier tasks in this enterprise? Yes, the Liberals had to vote for Kristersson after campaigning on making him PM, voting "no" would have split the party and both wings would have ended up below the threshold in the next election. But there'll be MPs rebelling on a number of judicial and immigration related issues, and it's not that likely that the party can stand being in government for a whole term imo. Their Stockholm branch already wants the leadership to call an extraordinary party council to "discuss" the agreement. What do you think will happen if a number of Liberals bail out on a key vote? Will SD pull down the government? |
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Post by nelson on Oct 17, 2022 11:14:07 GMT
Yes, the Liberals had to vote for Kristersson after campaigning on making him PM, voting "no" would have split the party and both wings would have ended up below the threshold in the next election. But there'll be MPs rebelling on a number of judicial and immigration related issues, and it's not that likely that the party can stand being in government for a whole term imo. Their Stockholm branch already wants the leadership to call an extraordinary party council to "discuss" the agreement. What do you think will happen if a number of Liberals bail out on a key vote? Will SD pull down the government? Not the first time it happens, but it's clear that SD traded government participation for policy concessions, so if a substantial number of those concessions in reality vanishes into thin air they'll at some point have to pull the plug, otherwise they'd quickly lose credibility and support. |
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