The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 17, 2021 11:11:54 GMT
No, he was elected at stage 3. A redundant and ludicrous "stage 4", prohibited in the regulations, was carried out. I am conducting a one-person campaign, the least important which I have ever fought, to stop Scottish councils doing it! Good point. Silly routine. Good result. In fact the Conservatives have had a far better night than many expected.I am off to bed and will catch up on the twittering-gibbering fest from Salop tomorrow. If you say so, our prediction competition had them tipped to hold the three seats they did however. |
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Post by carolus on Dec 17, 2021 11:30:01 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 17, 2021 11:30:10 GMT
Horsham, Roffey South reported to be a Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative.
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Post by andrewp on Dec 17, 2021 11:42:20 GMT
Good point. Silly routine. Good result. In fact the Conservatives have had a far better night than many expected.I am off to bed and will catch up on the twittering-gibbering fest from Salop tomorrow. If you say so, our prediction competition had them tipped to hold the three seats they did however. Yes I think the results were mostly as predicted, the exceptions being the Labour/ Independent contests in Middlesborough and Bridgend. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Dec 17, 2021 11:52:55 GMT
Roffey South, Horsham District Council
Liberal Democrat: 462
Conservative: 335
Green Party: 222
Labour: 95
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Post by jamesdoyle on Dec 17, 2021 11:59:16 GMT
GWBWI
LDm +205
Grn +129
PC +14
SNP -11
Lab -75
Con -268
I'm sure carlton will be celebrating this 'far better night than many expected'. Local by-elections, not as bad as last week, but worse than two weeks ago; four seats lost, widely spread across England, including two in councils that are on a knife edge. And then there's Shropshire North...
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Post by bigfatron on Dec 17, 2021 12:00:27 GMT
Anyone who tries to spin last night as anything other than disastrous for the Tories is just seeking to rival BoJo for 'bullshitter of the year' award...
Local results really weren't great, and the Parliamentary by-election was a spectacular fail.
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 17, 2021 12:01:20 GMT
GWBWI LDm +205 Grn +129 PC +14 SNP -11 Lab -75 Con -268 I'm sure carlton will be celebrating this 'far better night than many expected'. Local by-elections, not as bad as last week, but worse than two weeks ago; four seats lost, widely spread across England, including two in councils that are on a knife edge. And then there's Shropshire North... It is certainly better for the Tories than Pete's map on the other thread! |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 17, 2021 12:09:53 GMT
Argyll & Bute: Lomomd North - Conservative hold based on first preference votes| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2017 | since 2012 | since 2017 | | Conservative | 742 | 40.7% | +11.3% | +21.9% | +27.2% | | SNP | 459 | 25.2% | +5.0% | +11.2% | +9.6% | | Independent Irvine | 418 | 22.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent MacIntyre | 204 | 11.2% | +0.5% | -1.2% | from nowhere | | Independent Freeman |
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| -17.4% | -29.2% | -17.2% | | Independent Baker |
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| -12.1% |
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| | Labour |
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| -6.3% | -13.0% |
| | Liberal Democrat |
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| -4.0% |
| -11.0% | | Independent Kelly |
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| -8.2% | -20.5% | | Independent Will |
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| -4.5% |
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| -22.2% | | Total votes | 1,823
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| 54% | 63% | 51% |
Swing: SNP to Conservative 3¼% since 2017 and less meaningful 5¼% since 2012 and 8¾% since 2007 Council now: 11 SNP, 10 Independent, 9 Conservative, 5 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independence for Scotland Ashford: Highfield - Green gain from Conservative| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 | | Green | 191 | 40.0% | +21.2% | | Conservative | 163 | 34.1% | -7.0% | | Ashford Independent | 101 | 21.1% | -7.4% | | Labour | 23 | 4.8% | from nowhere | | Liberal Democrat |
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| -11.6% | | Total votes | 478 |
| 68% |
Swing: Conservative to Green 14% since 2019 Council now: 24 Conservative, 11 Ashford Independent, 6 Labour, 4 Green, 2 Independent Bridgend: Caerau - Independent gain from Labour| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2017 "top" | since 2017 "average" | since 2012 "top" | since 2012 "average" | | Independent | 515 | 48.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Labour | 441 | 41.8% | -6.4% | -7.1% | -16.5% | -14.0% | | Plaid Cymru | 82 | 7.8% | -10.7% | -12.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 18 | 1.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independents |
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| -33.4% | -31.1% | -41.7% | -44.2% | | Total votes | 1,056 |
| 61% | 66% | 58% | 62% |
Swing: if based on Independents being a party, Labour to Independent 11% / 12½% since 2017 and 11¾% / 9¼% since 2012 Council now: 24 Labour, 10 Independent Alliance, 7 Conservative, 6 Independent, 3 Llynfi Independent, 2 Plaid Cymru, 1 Liberal Democrat, 1 Propel
Horsham: Rothley South - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | | since 2015 "top" * | since 2015 "average" * | | Liberal Democrat | 462 | 41.5% | +0.6% | +0.7% |
| +23.7% | +22.5% | | Conservative | 335 | 30.1% | -11.4% | -11.5% |
| -11.1% | -10.8% | | Green | 222 | 19.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
| +10.0% | +9.3% | | Labour | 95 | 8.5% | -9.1% | -9.1% |
| -4.3% | -3.9% | | UKIP |
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| -18.3% | -17.1% | | Total votes | 1,114 |
| 82% | 85% |
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* minor boundary changes
Swing: Conservative to Liberal Democrat 6% since 2019 and less meaningful 17½% 16¾% since 2015 Council now: 31 Conservative, 14 Liberal Democrat, 2 Green, 1 Independent Lichfield: Armitage & Handsacre - Conservative hold | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Conservative | 458 | 60.3% | -2.2% | +0.1% | +5.2% | +5.2% | | Labour | 301 | 39.7% | +2.2% | -0.1% | +8.9% | +9.6% | | Independent |
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| -14.1% | -14.8% | | Total votes | 759 |
| 56% | 59% | 21% | 22% |
Swing: Conservative to Labour 2¼% / 0% since 2019 and 1¾% / 2% since 2015 Council now: 35 Conservative, 10 Labour, 1 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Medway: Rochester East - Labour hold | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "share" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Labour | 870 | 63.3% | +15.2% | +14.6% | +27.0% | +26.1% | | Conservative | 388 | 28.2% | +8.7% | +10.4% | +0.8% | +2.3% | | Green | 69 | 5.0% | -9.2% | -9.7% | -5.9% | -6.6% | | Liberal Democrat | 48 | 3.5% | -2.8% | -3.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | UKIP |
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| -11.9% | -12.3% | -23.5% | -23.3% | | TUSC |
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| -1.9% | -2.0% | | Total votes | 1,375 |
| 50% | 51% | 27% | 29% |
Swing: Conservative to Labour 3¼% / 2% since 2019 and 13% / 12% since 2015 Council now: 32 Conservative, 21 Labour, 2 Independent
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 17, 2021 12:11:13 GMT
Middlesbrough: North Ormesby - Labour gain from Independent| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 | since 2015 | | Labour | 172 | 74.5% | +47.7% | 24.4% | | Independent Horkan | 32 | 13.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 20 | 8.7% | +5.5% | -0.9% | | Liberal Democrat | 7 | 3.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent Waters |
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| -40.4% | | Total votes | 231 |
| 44% | 30% |
Swing: not meaningful Council now: 19 Labour, 11 Middlesbrough Independent Group, 10 Middlesbrough Independent Councillors Association, 3 Conservatives, 3 Independent plus Independent Elected Mayor Northumberland: Hexham East - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative| Party | 2021 B votes | 2021 B share | since 2021 | since 2017 | since 2013 | | Liberal Democrat | 584 | 47.3% | +11.7% | +32.1% | +31.9% | | Conservative | 370 | 30.0% | -13.9% | -35.7% | -16.7% | | Labour | 154 | 12.5% | -8.1% | -1.9% | -10.0% | | Independent | 127 | 10.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green |
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| -15.5% | | Total votes | 1,235 |
| 79% | 86% | 93% |
Swing: Conservative to Liberal Democrat 12¾% since May, 34% since 2017 and 24¼% since 2013 Council now: 33 Conservative, 21 Labour, 4 Liberal Democrat, 4 Independent Group, 3 non-aligned, 2 Green Telford & Wrekin: Dawley & Aqueduct - Labour hold | Party | 2021 B2 votes | 2021 B2 share | since 2021 B1 | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Labour | 996 | 55.8% | +4.9% | -6.1% | -6.7% | +16.2% | +15.9% | | Conservative | 735 | 41.2% | -5.2% | +3.0% | +3.6% | +6.2% | +9.3% | | Liberal Democrat | 55 | 3.1% | +0.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | UKIP |
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| -25.4% | -28.3% | | Total votes | 1,786 |
| 69% | 91% | 98% | 39% | 43% |
Swing: Conservative to Labour 5% since May and less meaningful 5% / 3¼% since 2015 but Labour to Conservative 4½% / 5¼% since 2019 Council now: 35 Labour, 14 Conservative, 4 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Walsall: Pleck - Labour hold but candidate ineligible so will be disqualified | Party | 2021 B votes | 2021 B share | since 2021 | since 2019 | since 2018 | since 2016 | | Labour | 698 | 64.6% | -10.2% | -13.9% | -15.5% | -6.3% | | Conservative | 382 | 35.4% | +10.2% | +13.9% | +15.5% | +6.3% | | Total votes | 1,080 |
| 35% | 40% | 35% | 30% |
Swing: if meaningful Labour to Conservative 10¼% since may, 14% since 2019, 15½% since 2018 and 6¼% since 2016 Council now: 37 Conservative, 19 Labour, 2 Independent and still 2 vacancies West Berkshire: Tilehurst South & Holybrook - Conservative hold | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | | Conservative | 548 | 42.3% | -15.6% | -16.6% | | Labour | 387 | 29.9% | +4.8% | +4.6% | | Liberal Democrat | 359 | 27.7% | +10.8% | +12.1% | | Total votes | 1,294 |
| 82% | 86% |
Swing: Conservative to Labour 10¼% / 10½% since 2019 and Conservative to Liberal Democrat 13¼% / 14¼% since 2019 Council now: 24 Conservative, 16 Liberal Democrat, 3 Green West Lindsey: Nettleham - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 585 | 51.0% | +1.2% | -0.5% | +6.7% | +4.2% | | Conservative | 374 | 32.6% | -17.5% | -15.9% | -23.0% | -20.5% | | Labour | 116 | 10.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 71 | 6.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Total votes | 1,146 |
| 90% | 97% | 48% | 52% |
Swing: Conservative to Liberal Democrat 9¼% / 7¾% since 2019 and 14¾% / 12¼% since 2015 Council now: 17 Conservative, 13 Liberal Democrat, 2 Gainsborough Independents, 2 Lincolnshire Independents, 2 Independents
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 17, 2021 12:32:54 GMT
Conservatives hold Tilehurst South & Holybrook. Numbers to come. Conservatives: 548 (42.35%) Labour: 387 (29.91%) Lib Dems: 359 (27.74%) That's actually a very encouraging result for Labour in a council that is one of the longest standing electoral deserts for them. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 17, 2021 12:37:40 GMT
Conservatives: 548 (42.35%) Labour: 387 (29.91%) Lib Dems: 359 (27.74%) That's actually a very encouraging result for Labour in a council that is one of the longest standing electoral deserts for them. Also note that the ward is in Reading West constituency, which is a marginal. |
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Post by Penddu on Dec 17, 2021 12:56:11 GMT
BRIDGEND Caerau DAVIES, Chris (Independent) 515 LEWIS, Robert (Labour) 441 DUGGAN, Kyle (Plaid Cymru) 82 DWYER, Thomas Joseph (Conservative) 18 I am surprised the Tories found 18 votes in Caerau... |
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Post by batman on Dec 17, 2021 13:43:59 GMT
That's actually a very encouraging result for Labour in a council that is one of the longest standing electoral deserts for them. Also note that the ward is in Reading West constituency, which is a marginal. I said in my profile that Labour weren't negligible in the ward, but that result suggests that with tactical voting the Tories might struggle to stay ahead of Labour if that party is having a good general election, in the ward |
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Post by notabrummie on Dec 17, 2021 14:49:59 GMT
Pleck (Walsall) council by-election result:
LAB: 64.6% (-15.5)
CON: 35.4% (+15.5)
Labour HOLD.
Votes cast: 1,080
At a cost of £20,000 we find that the labour candidate was employed by Walsall council and so the result is void and the seat will be up, as normal, in May.
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Post by rhyfelwyr on Dec 17, 2021 15:41:11 GMT
BRIDGEND Caerau DAVIES, Chris (Independent) 515 LEWIS, Robert (Labour) 441 DUGGAN, Kyle (Plaid Cymru) 82 DWYER, Thomas Joseph (Conservative) 18 I am surprised the Tories found 18 votes in Caerau... That's the crachach for you  |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Dec 17, 2021 16:25:34 GMT
Conservatives: 548 (42.35%) Labour: 387 (29.91%) Lib Dems: 359 (27.74%) That's actually a very encouraging result for Labour in a council that is one of the longest standing electoral deserts for them. Labour W Berks would be better diverting their resources into winning some seats in Newbury-Thatcham, Theale could be fertile for them demographically, but the Lib Dems have that on lock currently. This kind of area is unfortunately full of people who hate the Borough (Council included) , so moved out, but continue to go to work and shop in Reading. As they hate RBC and Labour run it, when West Berks Labour come round canvassing, it's not going to be easy. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Dec 17, 2021 16:29:52 GMT
Also note that the ward is in Reading West constituency, which is a marginal. I said in my profile that Labour weren't negligible in the ward, but that result suggests that with tactical voting the Tories might struggle to stay ahead of Labour if that party is having a good general election, in the ward Mmm, you could get most of the people in the Holybrook area to vote Labour, but Tilehurst South (actually the Beansheaf area of Calcot mostly) is very white-flighty and that kind of demographic associate Labour with pro-immigration policy, so, if they vote against the Tories, they can only stomach the Libs. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Dec 17, 2021 16:32:39 GMT
That's actually a very encouraging result for Labour in a council that is one of the longest standing electoral deserts for them. Also note that the ward is in Reading West constituency, which is a marginal. Not for much longer, it's going to be flung into Mid Berks at the next set of changes and that will be an electoral desert for Labour. The Libs have got some serious work to do to get anywhere in that prospective constitiuency too, but at least they have some areas of real strength - Aldermaston, Burghfield & Mortimer, Theale and Tilehurst ward in Reading. But the Libs will be probably be distracted throwing the kitchen sink at the new Newbury in any case. |
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 17, 2021 17:37:21 GMT
The transfers are out for Argyll and Bute. The final count was quite close:
First preferences: C 742 SNP 459 Irvine 418 MacIntyre 204
Top 3: C 786 Irvine 494 SNP 489
Final: C 805 Irvine 711
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