Richard Allen
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Four time loser in VUKPOTY finals
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Post by Richard Allen on Jul 4, 2021 17:30:06 GMT
I'll make a final point about planning, principles and the LD Constitution, since it's been raised. Much as I admire Richard Allen's analysis generally, reading him on the LD preamble is like reading Davıd Boothroyd talking about Sandy's religion - there's such a complete lack of understanding of the other side's mentality it's like a debate conducted in two mutually incomprehensible languages. I have contempt for the mentality not a lack of understanding of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 10, 2021 19:24:48 GMT
The thin red line.. Wellington would have been proud! |
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Sept 11, 2021 10:48:01 GMT
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iain
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Post by iain on Sept 11, 2021 11:07:30 GMT
The reforms are dreadful and won’t help (and I say that as someone who wants to see much more housebuilding) so good.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 20, 2021 22:08:01 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: A follow up: |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 20, 2021 22:11:59 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: A follow up: But Labour members on here keep telling us that the Lib Dems will never back a Labour-led government... |
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Post by pericles on Sept 20, 2021 22:13:50 GMT
The Tories would know that, since the LibDems enabled plenty of the worst excesses of the Tories.
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Post by markgoodair on Sept 20, 2021 22:34:31 GMT
The Tories would know that, since the LibDems enabled plenty of the worst excesses of the Tories. Yet the Labour Party with its continued support of FPTP are the biggest enablers of the Tories ever so what exactly is your point? |
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Post by neilm on Sept 21, 2021 0:13:45 GMT
The Tories would know that, since the LibDems enabled plenty of the worst excesses of the Tories. Yet the Labour Party with its continued support of FPTP are the biggest enablers of the Tories ever so what exactly is your point? Perhaps his point is that the Lib Dems, when in government, enabled some of the worst excesses of the Tories? I say perhaps because that's how I read pericles' statement, but maybe you read his pretty explicit statement in a different way? |
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Post by pericles on Sept 21, 2021 1:46:42 GMT
Yet the Labour Party with its continued support of FPTP are the biggest enablers of the Tories ever so what exactly is your point? Perhaps his point is that the Lib Dems, when in government, enabled some of the worst excesses of the Tories? I say perhaps because that's how I read pericles ' statement, but maybe you read his pretty explicit statement in a different way? Yeah, Fleet's description rings true because that's how the LibDems treated the Tories when they were in government. |
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Post by grahammurray on Feb 26, 2022 17:56:13 GMT
Perhaps his point is that the Lib Dems, when in government, enabled some of the worst excesses of the Tories? I say perhaps because that's how I read pericles ' statement, but maybe you read his pretty explicit statement in a different way? Yeah, Fleet's description rings true because that's how the LibDems treated the Tories when they were in government. If 2010-15 was the 'worst excesses of the Tories' then I assume you think that current and recent events are an improvement. |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 26, 2022 18:14:22 GMT
Yeah, Fleet's description rings true because that's how the LibDems treated the Tories when they were in government. If 2010-15 was the 'worst excesses of the Tories' then I assume you think that current and recent events are an improvement. The original statement was " some of the worst excesses of the Tories." So I don't think we can draw that conclusion about somebody's views. |
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 26, 2022 18:21:39 GMT
I dream of a return to the 2010-2015 Tories!   |
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Post by grahammurray on Feb 26, 2022 19:37:27 GMT
If 2010-15 was the 'worst excesses of the Tories' then I assume you think that current and recent events are an improvement. The original statement was " some of the worst excesses of the Tories." So I don't think we can draw that conclusion about somebody's views. The original statement was 'plenty of'. I suppose nobody was expected to know that they had plenty more even worse ones that had been held in check. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Feb 26, 2022 20:46:46 GMT
What? Here as well? Is another Copeland byelection not enough?
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