Chesham and Amersham

[Pete Whitehead]

Jun 22, 2021 14:22:24 GMT andrewp said:

Jun 22, 2021 13:57:17 GMT yellowperil said:

I was doing a little arithmetic because I had wondered whether Sarah Green was the 100th Lib Dem to be first elected to Parliament as a Lib Dem, but I think actually she's the 101st. On my calculations she is the 129th Lib Dem MP in total. Discount the 7 defectors from 2019 who were elected as Labour or Conservative, the 18 Lib Dem MPs first elected as Liberals, the one first elected as Labour ,then SDP(Bob McLennan), the other two ex-Tories (Emma Nicholson, Peter Thurnham. If that's all correct that makes her no 101, and the hundredth was whoever was the last Lib Dem to be newly elected at the 2019 general election( Wendy probably, but it could have been Daisy or Munira, I haven't checked!).

Anyone check my arithmetic?

Have you factored in Brian Sedgemore and Paul Marsden?

Brian Sedgemore was no longer an MP when he defected

[Khunanup]

Jun 21, 2021 21:41:41 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Jun 21, 2021 21:34:49 GMT gwynthegriff said:

I may have put us at cross-purposes. Her accent when taking the oath that wasn't an oath (trademark Boothroyd) in Welsh suggested to me a native speaker, and given the confirmation of her Corwen background that seems unsurprising.

I haven't heard much of her speaking in English so don't know if her English is accented. An upbringing in Corwen probably wouldn't give her a caricature accent.

Her acceptance speech was, to me, pretty close to RP, with no particular regional accent at all. But I believe she's lived in England for a long time, certainly long enough to have lost any strong accent.

I could tell she was Welsh from her acceptance speech, but then I'm from border country.

I can also hear Mason Mount is a Pompey Boy when he speaks...

[yellowperil]

Jun 22, 2021 14:28:16 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

Jun 22, 2021 14:22:24 GMT andrewp said:

Have you factored in Brian Sedgemore and Paul Marsden?

Brian Sedgemore was no longer an MP when he defected

I did not list Sedgemore and having double checked I think Pete is quite correct- Sedgemore was an MP who defected to the LibDems immediately after ceasing to be an MP so he was never one of the 129.
edit- Marsden was onmy list of Lib Dem MPs but I have  missed the fact that he had been Labour originally -indeed I had completely forgotten that fact! So if there are no other corrections  Sarah Green becomes no 99 and we can bear that in mind next time an appropriate by election comes along, Not likely to be Batley & Spen though. 

[Pete Whitehead]

How are you treating Paul Tyler?

[yellowperil]

Jun 22, 2021 14:51:21 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

How are you treating Paul Tyler?

I had counted him in the "already elected as Liberal" category, though I did appreciate there was a difference in his case as the service wasn't continuous across the change of parties. The point was that he did not come into parliament for the first time as a Liberal Democrat so I didn't think he should be on my "hundred " list. Had I made that decision the other way we would indeed be back regarding Sarah Green as no 100, but I don't think that would be right. 

[melthamhd94nn]

Jun 22, 2021 14:51:07 GMT Andrew_S said:

Did the party win any by-elections when they were known as either the "Social and Liberal Democrats" or the "Democrats"?

Not sure but I won my local council seat 3 times - as Liberal, Alliance, Liberal Democrat.

[CatholicLeft]

Jun 22, 2021 14:39:11 GMT Khunanup said:

Jun 21, 2021 21:41:41 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Her acceptance speech was, to me, pretty close to RP, with no particular regional accent at all. But I believe she's lived in England for a long time, certainly long enough to have lost any strong accent.

I could tell she was Welsh from her acceptance speech, but then I'm from border country.

I can also hear Mason Mount is a Pompey Boy when he speaks...

I can hear it in her speech too.

[yellowperil]

Jun 22, 2021 14:51:07 GMT Andrew_S said:

Did the party win any by-elections when they were known as either the "Social and Liberal Democrats" or the "Democrats"?

If you mean parliamentary by-elections the short answer is no. There were 6 parliamentary  byelections I think in those "Salad Days", and in five of them there was a fierce contest between SLD and SDP to the benefit of neither. The only one where the combined vote of the former Alliance parties would have taken the seat from the Conservatives was Richmond, and there the continuing SDP was second and the SLD third, letting in a hapless Tory candidate called Hague. Glasgow Govan the SLD left to the SDP but they were pretty distant anyway. I think in the other 4 - Kensington, Epping Forest, Pontypridd, Vale of Glamorgan) the achievement for the SLD was finishing ahead of the SDP, however far from the finishing line they were. Come to think of it, I was at some  of those- not the Welsh ones though.  Eastbourne was the first breakthrough and I was certainly there, so yes in answer to an earlier question I suppose Bellotti was the first.

[gwynthegriff]

Jun 21, 2021 22:47:40 GMT Merseymike said:

Claire Curtis-Thomas the former Labour MP for Crosby was a Welsh first language speaker too - came from the Swansea Valley

Really?

Odd that it never came up in our many conversations.

[Merseymike]

Jun 22, 2021 16:12:31 GMT gwynthegriff said:

Jun 21, 2021 22:47:40 GMT Merseymike said:

Claire Curtis-Thomas the former Labour MP for Crosby was a Welsh first language speaker too - came from the Swansea Valley

Really?

Odd that it never came up in our many conversations.

She never made a thing of it but before she converted to Catholicism she sometimes made an appearance at the Welsh-language church in Crosby (now closed). She went to a Welsh medium secondary school.

I have a friend in Liverpool who has a civil service role involving use of Welsh. He speaks Welsh to his cat! Hasn't lived in Pwhelli for some 20 years now.

[gwynthegriff]

Jun 22, 2021 9:41:13 GMT carlton43 said:

Jun 21, 2021 21:34:49 GMT gwynthegriff said:

I may have put us at cross-purposes. Her accent when taking the oath that wasn't an oath (trademark Boothroyd) in Welsh suggested to me a native speaker, and given the confirmation of her Corwen background that seems unsurprising.

I haven't heard much of her speaking in English so don't know if her English is accented. An upbringing in Corwen probably wouldn't give her a caricature accent.

Why on earth would she do that as the MP for Chesham and Amersham?  And why do so many on these threads go on about the need not just for the necessity of Welsh people standing in Welsh seats, but properly 'local' Welsh people standing; and properly 'local' Batleyite Yorkshire and not alien Kirklees candidates for Batley and Spen;  but, hey, it is fine for a new Home Counties England MP to spout in a foreign tongue and to come from a foreign country?

Double standards and gross hypocrisy or wot? 

Examples?

[CatholicLeft]

Jun 22, 2021 16:12:31 GMT gwynthegriff said:

Jun 21, 2021 22:47:40 GMT Merseymike said:

Claire Curtis-Thomas the former Labour MP for Crosby was a Welsh first language speaker too - came from the Swansea Valley

Really?

Odd that it never came up in our many conversations.

I seem to recall her having attended a Welsh-language school, but that might be an aberrant memory.

[andrew111]

Jun 22, 2021 16:56:18 GMT Andrew_S said:

Jun 22, 2021 16:07:43 GMT yellowperil said:

If you mean parliamentary by-elections the short answer is no. There were 6 parliamentary  byelections I think in those "Salad Days", and in five of them there was a fierce contest between SLD and SDP to the benefit of neither. The only one where the combined vote of the former Alliance parties would have taken the seat from the Conservatives was Richmond, and there the continuing SDP was second and the SLD third, letting in a hapless Tory candidate called Hague. Glasgow Govan the SLD left to the SDP but they were pretty distant anyway. I think in the other 4 - Kensington, Epping Forest, Pontypridd, Vale of Glamorgan) the achievement for the SLD was finishing ahead of the SDP, however far from the finishing line they were. Come to think of it, I was at some  of those- not the Welsh ones though.  Eastbourne was the first breakthrough and I was certainly there, so yes in answer to an earlier question I suppose Bellotti was the first.

Useless fact: my dad still has his SLD badge from when he decided to join the party in 1988. Maybe it's a collectors item.

I was elected as an SLD Councillor. The campaign slogan was "Keeping up the Liberal Tradition in Horsforth and Rawdon". Now sadly no more..

[neilm]

Jun 22, 2021 15:32:03 GMT melthamhd94nn said:

Jun 22, 2021 14:51:07 GMT Andrew_S said:

Did the party win any by-elections when they were known as either the "Social and Liberal Democrats" or the "Democrats"?

Not sure but I won my local council seat 3 times - as Liberal, Alliance, Liberal Democrat.

Were many people elected as specifically Alliance? I suppose in those pre-PPERA days you could run with whatever description you wanted, but I don't recall seeing Alliance when looking through old results in Plymouth or the South Hams- they all seemed to be listed as SDP or Liberal.

[mattb]

Jun 22, 2021 17:46:58 GMT neilm said:

Jun 22, 2021 15:32:03 GMT melthamhd94nn said:

Not sure but I won my local council seat 3 times - as Liberal, Alliance, Liberal Democrat.

Were many people elected as specifically Alliance? I suppose in those pre-PPERA days you could run with whatever description you wanted, but I don't recall seeing Alliance when looking through old results in Plymouth or the South Hams- they all seemed to be listed as SDP or Liberal.

In most places people stood as 'Liberal/Alliance' or 'SDP/Alliance' - so I suppose technically separate but in practice very clearly a single slate and always (as far as I know) a single council group when elected.

[timmullen1]

Jun 22, 2021 20:07:54 GMT mattb said:

Jun 22, 2021 17:46:58 GMT neilm said:

Were many people elected as specifically Alliance? I suppose in those pre-PPERA days you could run with whatever description you wanted, but I don't recall seeing Alliance when looking through old results in Plymouth or the South Hams- they all seemed to be listed as SDP or Liberal.

In most places people stood as 'Liberal/Alliance' or 'SDP/Alliance' - so I suppose technically separate but in practice very clearly a single slate and always (as far as I know) a single council group when elected.

I thought that was the case; I was at college during the Newcastle-under-Lyme by-election (actually got caught in a disturbance when a group of I presume Keele students decide to pelt Edwina Currie with eggs while a dozen of us were doing a street collection for the Brittle Bone Society) and our National Union of Students Rep was SDP Youth Officer or something and was frequently chuntering about Alan Williams not using Alliance after Liberal.

[tonyhill]

I'm just going through my vast accumulation of election leaflets from Hampshire with a view to giving them to the Hampshire Records Office, and from the Alliance period the candidates are all "SDP/Liberal Alliance" or "Liberal/SDP Alliance". How they were described in the results in local newspapers would be down to the quality of local reporters/editorial staff rather than accurately reflecting the true situation on the ground.

[michael2019]

Jun 22, 2021 14:42:37 GMT yellowperil said:

Jun 22, 2021 14:28:16 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

Brian Sedgemore was no longer an MP when he defected

I did not list Sedgemore and having double checked I think Pete is quite correct- Sedgemore was an MP who defected to the LibDems immediately after ceasing to be an MP so he was never one of the 129.
edit- Marsden was onmy list of Lib Dem MPs but I have  missed the fact that he had been Labour originally -indeed I had completely forgotten that fact! So if there are no other corrections  Sarah Green becomes no 99 and we can bear that in mind next time an appropriate by election comes along, Not likely to be Batley & Spen though. 

I think that by your rules she becomes the 97th Liberal Democrat MP that was elected for the first time that they were elected as a Liberal Democrat - not as Liberal or for the SDP.

I may well be wrong - I normally am! 

So people can check, I set out below details from a Wikipedia list of all-time Lib Dem MPs and the Lib Dems from the Wikipedia lists of those elected at each General Election since 1992 and the Wikipedia lists of by-election gains.

The "tricky" ones - along with Paul Tyler are the three Liberal/SDP "retreads" at the 1997 General Election Ronnie Fearn, Mike Hancock and Richard Livsey. It is possible that you may have missed Mike Hancock as his period as an MP for a predecessor party did not overlap with a period after 1987 as a Liberal Democrat. In addition it is easy to count Mark Oaten twice - as obv. his by-election win was a hold (if you view him elected at the General Election).

Wikipedia has an all-time list of 129 Liberal Democrat MPs at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liberal_Democrat_MPs

Of those I think the following were

First elected as Liberal Democrats (97)
Danny Alexander, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey, 2005–2015; Richard Allan, Sheffield Hallam, 1997–2005; Norman Baker, Lewes, 1997–2015; Jackie Ballard, Taunton, 1997–2001; John Barrett, Edinburgh West, 2001–2010; David Bellotti, Eastbourne, 1990–1992; Gordon Birtwistle, Burnley, 2010–2015; Tom Brake, Carshalton and Wallington, 1997–2019; Peter Brand, Isle of Wight, 1997–2001; Colin Breed, South East Cornwall, 1997–2010; Annette Brooke, Mid Dorset and North Poole, 2001–2015; Jeremy Browne, Taunton Deane, 2005–2015; John Burnett, Torridge and West Devon, 1997–2005; Paul Burstow, Sutton and Cheam, 1997–2015; Lorely Burt, Solihull, 2005–2015; Vince Cable, Twickenham, 1997–2015; 2017–2019; Patsy Calton, Cheadle, 2001–2005; Alistair Carmichael, Orkney and Shetland, 2001–present; Michael Carr, Ribble Valley, 1991–1992; Wendy Chamberlain, North East Fife, 2019–present; David Chidgey, Eastleigh, 1994–2005; Nick Clegg, Sheffield Hallam, 2005–2017; Daisy Cooper, St Albans, 2019–present; Brian Cotter, Weston-super-Mare, 1997–2005; Mike Crockart, Edinburgh West, 2010–2015; Ed Davey, Kingston and Surbiton, 1997–2015; 2017–present; Chris Davies, Littleborough and Saddleworth, 1995–1997; Jane Dodds, Brecon and Radnorshire, 2019; Sue Doughty, Guildford, 2001–2005; Tim Farron, Westmorland and Lonsdale, 2005–present; Lynne Featherstone, Hornsey and Wood Green, 2005–2015; Don Foster, Bath, 1992–2015; Andrew George, St Ives, 1997–2015; Sandra Gidley, Romsey, 2000–2010; Steve Gilbert, St Austell and Newquay, 2010–2015; Julia Goldsworthy, Falmouth and Camborne, 2005–2010; Donald Gorrie, Edinburgh West, 1997–2001; Sarah Green, Chesham and Amersham, 2021–present; Matthew Green, Ludlow, 2001–2005; Duncan Hames, Chippenham, 2010–2015; Evan Harris, Oxford West and Abingdon, 1997–2010; Nick Harvey, North Devon, 1992–2015; David Heath, Somerton and Frome, 1997–2015; John Hemming, Birmingham Yardley, 2005–2015; Wera Hobhouse, Bath, 2017–present; Paul Holmes, Chesterfield, 2001–2010; Martin Horwood, Cheltenham, 2005–2015; David Howarth, Cambridge, 2005–2010; Chris Huhne, Eastleigh, 2005–2013; Mark Hunter, Cheadle, 2005–2015; Julian Huppert, Cambridge, 2010–2015; Christine Jardine, Edinburgh West, 2017–prese; Nigel Jones, Cheltenham, 1992–2005; Paul Keetch, Hereford, 1997–2010; Susan Kramer, Richmond Park, 2005–2010; Norman Lamb, North Norfolk, 2001–2019; David Laws, Yeovil, 2001–2015; John Leech, Manchester Withington, 2005–2015; Stephen Lloyd, Eastbourne, 2010–2015; 2017–2018; 2019; Liz Lynne, Rochdale, 1992–1997; Diana Maddock, Christchurch, 1993–1997; Michael Moore, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale, 1997–2005; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, 2005–2015; Layla Moran, Oxford West and Abingdon, 2017–present; Greg Mulholland, Leeds North West, 2005–2017; Tessa Munt, Wells, 2010–2015; Mark Oaten, Winchester, 1997–2010; Sarah Olney, Richmond Park, 2016–2017; 2019–present; Lembit Öpik, Montgomeryshire, 1997–2010; John Pugh, Southport, 2001–2017; Alan Reid, Argyll and Bute, 2001–2015; David Rendel, Newbury, 1993–2005; Willie Rennie, Dunfermline and West Fife, 2006–2010; Dan Rogerson, North Cornwall, 2005–2015; Paul Rowen, Rochdale, 2005–2010; Bob Russell, Colchester, 1997–2015; Adrian Sanders, Torbay, 1997–2015; Parmjit Singh Gill, Leicester South, 2004–2005; Robert Smith, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, 1997–2015; Nicol Stephen, Kincardine  nd Deeside 1991–1992; Jamie Stone, Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 2017–present; Andrew Stunell, Hazel Grove, 1997–2015; Ian Swales, Redcar, 2010–2015; Jo Swinson, East Dunbartonshire, 2005–2015; 2017–2019;  Sarah Teather, Brent East, 2003–2010; Brent Central, 2010–2015; Mike Thornton, Eastleigh, 2013–2015; John Thurso, Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 2001–2015; Jenny Tonge, Richmond Park, 1997–2005; David Ward, Bradford East, 2010–2015; Steve Webb, Northavon, 1997–2010; Thornbury and Yate, 2010–2015; Roger Williams, Brecon and Radnorshire, 2001–2015; Stephen Williams, Bristol West, 2005–2015; Mark Williams, Ceredigion, 2005–2017; Phil Willis, Harrogate and Knaresborough, 1997–2010; Jenny Willott, Cardiff Central, 2005–2015; Munira Wilson, Twickenham, 2019–present; Simon Wright, Norwich South, 2010–2015; Richard Younger-Ross, Teignbridge, 2001–2010

First elected for a predecessor party (21)

(2 - Cyril Smith and Geraint Howells did not stand in 1992 or subsequently so were never elected as Liberal Democrats, Ronnie Fearn didn't win in 1992 but was subsequently re-elected in 1997 and the same applied to Richard Livesey, Mike Hancock had been an SDP MP between 1984 and 1987, Paul Tyler had been a Liberal MP between Feb 1974 and October 1974 (Edit - Correction Geraint Howells did stand but didn't win en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceredigion_and_Pembroke_North_(UK_Parliament_constituency) - it was basically a four way marginal with 11% separating 1st and 4th! )

David Alton, Liverpool Mossley Hill, 1988–1997; Paddy Ashdown, Yeovil, 1988–2001; Alan Beith, Berwick-upon-Tweed, 1988–2015; Malcolm Bruce, Gordon, 1988–2015; Menzies Campbell, North East Fife, 1988–2015; Alex Carlile, Montgomeryshire, 1988–1997; Ronnie Fearn, Southport, 1988–1992; 1997–2001; Mike Hancock, Portsmouth South, 1997–2015; Geraint Howells, Ceredigion and Pembroke North, 1988–1992; Simon Hughes, Southwark and Bermondsey, 1983–1997; North Southwark and Bermondsey, 1997–2015; Russell Johnston, Inverness, Nairn and Lochaber, 1988–1997; Charles Kennedy, Ross, Cromarty and Skye, 1988–1997; Ross, Skye and Inverness West, 1997–2005; Ross, Skye and Lochaber, 2005–2015; Archy Kirkwood, Roxburgh and Berwickshire, 1988–2005; Richard Livsey, Brecon and Radnorshire, 1988–1992; 1997–2001; Robert Maclennan, Caithness and Sutherland, 1988–1997; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 1997–2001; Ray Michie, Argyll and Bute, 1988–2001; Cyril Smith, Rochdale, 1988–1992; David Steel, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale, 1988–1997; Matthew Taylor, Truro, 1988–1997; Truro and St Austell, 1997–2010; Paul Tyler, North Cornwall, 1992–2005; Jim Wallace, Orkney and Shetland, 1988–2001

Defectors from a party other than Liberal or SDP (11)

And the following are defectors - they started out in a party other than the Liberal Democrats, Liberal or SDP. In addition Bob MacClennan started out in Labour and defected to the SDP and then became a Liberal Democrat but is included above. Rather surprisingly I think he is the only defector (not from a predecessor party which doesn't count) to have subsequently been elected as a Liberal Democrat. (Paul Marsden is listed on Wikipedia as a Liberal Democrat elected in 2001, in fact he was elected as Labour in 2001, defected to the Liberal Democrats later in 2001 and "re-ratted" back to Labour in 2005 just before the General Election but didn't stand in the 2005 General Election.)

Heidi Allen, South Cambridgeshire, 2019; Luciana Berger, Liverpool Wavertree, 2019; Sam Gyimah, East Surrey, 2019; Phillip Lee, Bracknell, 2019; Paul Marsden, Shrewsbury and Atcham, 2001–2005; Emma Nicholson, Torridge and West Devon, 1995–1997; Antoinette Sandbach, Eddisbury, 2019; Angela Smith, Penistone and Stocksbridge, 2019; Peter Thurnham, Bolton North East, 1996–1997; Chuka Umunna, Streatham, 2019; Sarah Wollaston, Totnes, 2019.

Lib Dems elected at each General Election since 1992 and at by-elections since 1987

As a cross-check, the second way of looking at is those elected at each General Election from 1992. The total of the number of MPs in each category for each year should obv. equal the number of Lib Dems elected that year - and as far as I can see it does!

1992 (20 MPs)
Elected for first time (4):
Bath Don Foster; Devon North Nick Harvey; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Rochdale Liz Lynne


Elected having being elected for Predecessor Parties (16):
Liverpool Mossley Hill David Alton; Yeovil Paddy Ashdown; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Fife North East Menzies Campbell;  Montgomeryshire Alex Carlile; Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Inverness, Nairn and Lochaber Russell Johnston; Ross, Cromarty and Skye Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Caithness and Sutherland Robert Maclennan; Argyll and Bute Ray Michie; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale David Steel; Truro Matthew Taylor; Cornwall North Paul Tyler; Orkney and Shetland Jim Wallace

1997 (46 MPs)

Elected for first time (26):
Sheffield, Hallam Richard Allan; Lewes Norman Baker; Taunton Jackie Ballard; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Isle of Wight Peter Brand; South East Cornwall Colin Breed;Torridge and West Devon John Burnett; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Weston-super-Mare Brian Cotter; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; St Ives Andrew George; Edinburgh West Donald Gorrie; Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Hereford Paul Keetch; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; Aberdeenshire West and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Richmond Park Jenny Tonge; Northavon Steve Webb; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis

Elected having being elected for Predecessor Parties (3):
Southport Ronnie Fearn; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; Brecon and Radnorshire Richard Livsey

Winners of by-elections in preceding Parliament (2):
Eastleigh David Chidgey; Newbury David Rendel

Re-elected (15 MPs):
Yeovil Paddy Ashdown; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Bath Don Foster; North Devon Nick Harvey; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Ross, Skye and Inverness West Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Robert Maclennan; Argyll and Bute Ray Michie; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; North Cornwall Paul Tyler; Orkney and Shetland Jim Wallace

2001 (52 MPs)

Elected for first time (13):
Edinburgh West John Barrett; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Cheadle Patsy Calton; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichae;Guildford Sue Doughty; Ludlow Matthew Green; Chesterfield Paul Holmes; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Teignbridge Richard Younger-Ross

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Romsey Sandra Gidley

Re-elected (38):
Sheffield Hallam Richard Allan; Lewes Norman Baker; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; South East Cornwall Colin Breed; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Torridge and West Devon John Burnett; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Eastleigh David Chidgey; Weston-Super-Mare Brian Cotter; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock;Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Hereford Paul Keetch; Ross, Skye and Inverness West Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Southport John Pugh; Newbury David Rendel; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; Richmond Park Jenny Tonge; North Cornwall Paul Tyler; Northavon Steve Webb; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis

2005 (62 MPs)

Elected for the first time (20):
Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Danny Alexander; Taunton Jeremy Browne; Solihull Lorely Burt; Sheffield Hallam Nick Clegg; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Hornsey and Wood Green Lynne Featherstone; Falmouth and Camborne Julia Goldsworthy; Birmingham, Yardley John Hemming; Cheltenham Martin Horwood; Cambridge David Howarth; Eastleigh Chris Huhne; Richmond Park Susan Kramer; Manchester Withington John Leech; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; North Cornwall Dan Rogerson; Rochdale Paul Rowen; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson; Ceredigion Mark Williams; Bristol West Stephen Williams;Cardiff Central Jenny Willott

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Brent East Sarah Teather

Re-elected (41):
Lewes Norman Baker; Edinburgh West John Barrett; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; South East Cornwall Colin Breed; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Cheadle Patsy Calton; Fife North East Menzies Campbell; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Romsey Sandra Gidley;  Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Chesterfield Paul Holmes; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Hereford Paul Keetch; Ross, Skye and Lochaber Charles Kennedy; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Southport John Pugh; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Northavon Steve Webb; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis; Teignbridge Richard Younger-Ross

2010 (57 MPs)
Elected for the first time (11):
Burnley Gordon Birtwistle; Edinburgh West Michael Crockart; St Austell and Newquay Steve Gilbert; Chippenham Duncan Hames; Cambridge Julian Huppert; Eastbourne Stephen Lloyd; Wells Tessa Munt; Southport John Pugh; Redcar Ian Swales; Bradford East David Ward; Norwich South Simon Wright

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Cheadle Mark Hunter

Re-elected (45)
Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Danny Alexander; Lewes Norman Baker; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Taunton Deane Jeremy Browne; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Solihull Lorely Burt; Twickenham Vincent Cable; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Sheffield, Hallam Nick Clegg; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Hornsey and Wood Green Lynne Featherstone; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Birmingham, Yardley John Hemming; Cheltenham Martin Horwood; Bermondsey and Old Southwark Simon Hughes; Eastleigh Chris Huhne; Ross, Skye and Lochaber Charles Kennedy; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Manchester Withington John Leech; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk Michael Moore; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; North Cornwall Dan Rogerson; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson; Brent Central Sarah Teather; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Thornbury and Yate Steve Webb; Ceredigion Mark Williams; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Bristol West Stephen Williams; Cardiff Central Jenny Willott

2015 (8 MPs)

Re-elected (8):
Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Sheffield Hallam Nick Clegg; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; Southport John Pugh

2017 (12 MPs)

Elected for the first time (4):
Bath Wera Hobhouse Hobhouse; Edinburgh West Christine Jardine Jardine; Oxford West and Abingdon Layla Moran; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Jamie Stone Stone

Re-elected (8 MPs):
Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Eastbourne Stephen Lloyd; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson

2019 (11 MPs)

Elected for the first time (3):
North East Fife Wendy Chamberlain; St Albans Daisy Cooper; Twickenham Munira Wilson

Re-elected (8):
Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Bath Wera Hobhouse; Edinburgh West Christine Jardine; Oxford West and Abingdon Layla Moran; Richmond Park Sarah Olney; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Jamie Stone

First elected at by-election 1987-2021 (16) (Edit: Corrected from "By election gains")
(excluding Mark Oaten holding Winchester)
18/10/90 Eastbourne David Bellotti
07/03/91 Ribble Valley Michael Carr
07/11/91 Kincardine and Deeside Nicol Stephen
06/05/93 Newbury David Rendel
29/07/93 Christchurch Diana Maddock
09/06/94 Eastleigh David Chidgey
27/07/95 Littleborough and Saddleworth Chris Davies
04/05/00 Romsey Sandra Gidley
18/09/03 Brent East Sarah Teather
15/07/04 Leicester South Parmjit Singh Gill
14/07/05 Cheadle Mark Hunter
09/02/06 Dunfermline and West Fife Willie Rennie
28/02/13 Eastleigh Mike Thornton
01/12/16 Richmond Park Sarah Olney
01/08/19 Brecon and Radnorshire Jane Dodds
17/06/21 Chesham and Amersham Sarah Green

So MPs newly elected for the first time as Liberal Democrats - not having been elected for predecessor party
1992 4
1997 26
2001 13
2005 20
2010 11
2015 0
2017 4
2019 3
At by-elections 16
Total: 97

[yellowperil]

Jun 23, 2021 5:48:08 GMT michael2019 said:

Jun 22, 2021 14:42:37 GMT yellowperil said:

I did not list Sedgemore and having double checked I think Pete is quite correct- Sedgemore was an MP who defected to the LibDems immediately after ceasing to be an MP so he was never one of the 129.
edit- Marsden was onmy list of Lib Dem MPs but I have  missed the fact that he had been Labour originally -indeed I had completely forgotten that fact! So if there are no other corrections  Sarah Green becomes no 99 and we can bear that in mind next time an appropriate by election comes along, Not likely to be Batley & Spen though. 

I think that by your rules she becomes the 97th Liberal Democrat MP that was elected for the first time that they were elected as a Liberal Democrat - not as Liberal or for the SDP.

I may well be wrong - I normally am! 

So people can check, I set out below details from a Wikipedia list of all-time Lib Dem MPs and the Lib Dems from the Wikipedia lists of those elected at each General Election since 1992 and the Wikipedia lists of by-election gains.

The "tricky" ones - along with Paul Tyler are the three Liberal/SDP "retreads" at the 1997 General Election Ronnie Fearn, Mike Hancock and Richard Livsey. It is possible that you may have missed Mike Hancock as his period as an MP for a predecessor party did not overlap with a period after 1987 as a Liberal Democrat. In addition it is easy to count Mark Oaten twice - as obv. his by-election win was a hold (if you view him elected at the General Election).

Wikipedia has an all-time list of 129 Liberal Democrat MPs at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liberal_Democrat_MPs

Of those I think the following were

First elected as Liberal Democrats (97)
Danny Alexander, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey, 2005–2015; Richard Allan, Sheffield Hallam, 1997–2005; Norman Baker, Lewes, 1997–2015; Jackie Ballard, Taunton, 1997–2001; John Barrett, Edinburgh West, 2001–2010; David Bellotti, Eastbourne, 1990–1992; Gordon Birtwistle, Burnley, 2010–2015; Tom Brake, Carshalton and Wallington, 1997–2019; Peter Brand, Isle of Wight, 1997–2001; Colin Breed, South East Cornwall, 1997–2010; Annette Brooke, Mid Dorset and North Poole, 2001–2015; Jeremy Browne, Taunton Deane, 2005–2015; John Burnett, Torridge and West Devon, 1997–2005; Paul Burstow, Sutton and Cheam, 1997–2015; Lorely Burt, Solihull, 2005–2015; Vince Cable, Twickenham, 1997–2015; 2017–2019; Patsy Calton, Cheadle, 2001–2005; Alistair Carmichael, Orkney and Shetland, 2001–present; Michael Carr, Ribble Valley, 1991–1992; Wendy Chamberlain, North East Fife, 2019–present; David Chidgey, Eastleigh, 1994–2005; Nick Clegg, Sheffield Hallam, 2005–2017; Daisy Cooper, St Albans, 2019–present; Brian Cotter, Weston-super-Mare, 1997–2005; Mike Crockart, Edinburgh West, 2010–2015; Ed Davey, Kingston and Surbiton, 1997–2015; 2017–present; Chris Davies, Littleborough and Saddleworth, 1995–1997; Jane Dodds, Brecon and Radnorshire, 2019; Sue Doughty, Guildford, 2001–2005; Tim Farron, Westmorland and Lonsdale, 2005–present; Lynne Featherstone, Hornsey and Wood Green, 2005–2015; Don Foster, Bath, 1992–2015; Andrew George, St Ives, 1997–2015; Sandra Gidley, Romsey, 2000–2010; Steve Gilbert, St Austell and Newquay, 2010–2015; Julia Goldsworthy, Falmouth and Camborne, 2005–2010; Donald Gorrie, Edinburgh West, 1997–2001; Sarah Green, Chesham and Amersham, 2021–present; Matthew Green, Ludlow, 2001–2005; Duncan Hames, Chippenham, 2010–2015; Evan Harris, Oxford West and Abingdon, 1997–2010; Nick Harvey, North Devon, 1992–2015; David Heath, Somerton and Frome, 1997–2015; John Hemming, Birmingham Yardley, 2005–2015; Wera Hobhouse, Bath, 2017–present; Paul Holmes, Chesterfield, 2001–2010; Martin Horwood, Cheltenham, 2005–2015; David Howarth, Cambridge, 2005–2010; Chris Huhne, Eastleigh, 2005–2013; Mark Hunter, Cheadle, 2005–2015; Julian Huppert, Cambridge, 2010–2015; Christine Jardine, Edinburgh West, 2017–prese; Nigel Jones, Cheltenham, 1992–2005; Paul Keetch, Hereford, 1997–2010; Susan Kramer, Richmond Park, 2005–2010; Norman Lamb, North Norfolk, 2001–2019; David Laws, Yeovil, 2001–2015; John Leech, Manchester Withington, 2005–2015; Stephen Lloyd, Eastbourne, 2010–2015; 2017–2018; 2019; Liz Lynne, Rochdale, 1992–1997; Diana Maddock, Christchurch, 1993–1997; Michael Moore, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale, 1997–2005; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, 2005–2015; Layla Moran, Oxford West and Abingdon, 2017–present; Greg Mulholland, Leeds North West, 2005–2017; Tessa Munt, Wells, 2010–2015; Mark Oaten, Winchester, 1997–2010; Sarah Olney, Richmond Park, 2016–2017; 2019–present; Lembit Öpik, Montgomeryshire, 1997–2010; John Pugh, Southport, 2001–2017; Alan Reid, Argyll and Bute, 2001–2015; David Rendel, Newbury, 1993–2005; Willie Rennie, Dunfermline and West Fife, 2006–2010; Dan Rogerson, North Cornwall, 2005–2015; Paul Rowen, Rochdale, 2005–2010; Bob Russell, Colchester, 1997–2015; Adrian Sanders, Torbay, 1997–2015; Parmjit Singh Gill, Leicester South, 2004–2005; Robert Smith, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, 1997–2015; Nicol Stephen, Kincardine  nd Deeside 1991–1992; Jamie Stone, Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 2017–present; Andrew Stunell, Hazel Grove, 1997–2015; Ian Swales, Redcar, 2010–2015; Jo Swinson, East Dunbartonshire, 2005–2015; 2017–2019;  Sarah Teather, Brent East, 2003–2010; Brent Central, 2010–2015; Mike Thornton, Eastleigh, 2013–2015; John Thurso, Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 2001–2015; Jenny Tonge, Richmond Park, 1997–2005; David Ward, Bradford East, 2010–2015; Steve Webb, Northavon, 1997–2010; Thornbury and Yate, 2010–2015; Roger Williams, Brecon and Radnorshire, 2001–2015; Stephen Williams, Bristol West, 2005–2015; Mark Williams, Ceredigion, 2005–2017; Phil Willis, Harrogate and Knaresborough, 1997–2010; Jenny Willott, Cardiff Central, 2005–2015; Munira Wilson, Twickenham, 2019–present; Simon Wright, Norwich South, 2010–2015; Richard Younger-Ross, Teignbridge, 2001–2010

First elected for a predecessor party (21)

(2 - Cyril Smith and Geraint Howells did not stand in 1992 or subsequently so were never elected as Liberal Democrats, Ronnie Fearn didn't win in 1992 but was subsequently re-elected in 1997 and the same applied to Richard Livesey, Mike Hancock had been an SDP MP between 1984 and 1987, Paul Tyler had been a Liberal MP between Feb 1974 and October 1974)

David Alton, Liverpool Mossley Hill, 1988–1997; Paddy Ashdown, Yeovil, 1988–2001; Alan Beith, Berwick-upon-Tweed, 1988–2015; Malcolm Bruce, Gordon, 1988–2015; Menzies Campbell, North East Fife, 1988–2015; Alex Carlile, Montgomeryshire, 1988–1997; Ronnie Fearn, Southport, 1988–1992; 1997–2001; Mike Hancock, Portsmouth South, 1997–2015; Geraint Howells, Ceredigion and Pembroke North, 1988–1992; Simon Hughes, Southwark and Bermondsey, 1983–1997; North Southwark and Bermondsey, 1997–2015; Russell Johnston, Inverness, Nairn and Lochaber, 1988–1997; Charles Kennedy, Ross, Cromarty and Skye, 1988–1997; Ross, Skye and Inverness West, 1997–2005; Ross, Skye and Lochaber, 2005–2015; Archy Kirkwood, Roxburgh and Berwickshire, 1988–2005; Richard Livsey, Brecon and Radnorshire, 1988–1992; 1997–2001; Robert Maclennan, Caithness and Sutherland, 1988–1997; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, 1997–2001; Ray Michie, Argyll and Bute, 1988–2001; Cyril Smith, Rochdale, 1988–1992; David Steel, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale, 1988–1997; Matthew Taylor, Truro, 1988–1997; Truro and St Austell, 1997–2010; Paul Tyler, North Cornwall, 1992–2005; Jim Wallace, Orkney and Shetland, 1988–2001

Defectors from a party other than Liberal or SDP (11)

And the following are defectors - they started out in a party other than the Liberal Democrats, Liberal or SDP. In addition Bob MacClennan started out in Labour and defected to the SDP and then became a Liberal Democrat but is included above. Rather surprisingly I think he is the only defector (not from a predecessor party which doesn't count) to have subsequently been elected as a Liberal Democrat. (Paul Marsden is listed on Wikipedia as a Liberal Democrat elected in 2001, in fact he was elected as Labour in 2001, defected to the Liberal Democrats later in 2001 and "re-ratted" back to Labour in 2005 just before the General Election but didn't stand in the 2005 General Election.)

Heidi Allen, South Cambridgeshire, 2019; Luciana Berger, Liverpool Wavertree, 2019; Sam Gyimah, East Surrey, 2019; Phillip Lee, Bracknell, 2019; Paul Marsden, Shrewsbury and Atcham, 2001–2005; Emma Nicholson, Torridge and West Devon, 1995–1997; Antoinette Sandbach, Eddisbury, 2019; Angela Smith, Penistone and Stocksbridge, 2019; Peter Thurnham, Bolton North East, 1996–1997; Chuka Umunna, Streatham, 2019; Sarah Wollaston, Totnes, 2019.

Lib Dems elected at each General Election since 1992 and at by-elections since 1987

As a cross-check, the second way of looking at is those elected at each General Election from 1992. The total of the number of MPs in each category for each year should obv. equal the number of Lib Dems elected that year - and as far as I can see it does!

1992 (20 MPs)
Elected for first time (4):
Bath Don Foster; Devon North Nick Harvey; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Rochdale Liz Lynne


Elected having being elected for Predecessor Parties (16):
Liverpool Mossley Hill David Alton; Yeovil Paddy Ashdown; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Fife North East Menzies Campbell;  Montgomeryshire Alex Carlile; Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Inverness, Nairn and Lochaber Russell Johnston; Ross, Cromarty and Skye Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Caithness and Sutherland Robert Maclennan; Argyll and Bute Ray Michie; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale David Steel; Truro Matthew Taylor; Cornwall North Paul Tyler; Orkney and Shetland Jim Wallace

1997 (46 MPs)

Elected for first time (26):
Sheffield, Hallam Richard Allan; Lewes Norman Baker; Taunton Jackie Ballard; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Isle of Wight Peter Brand; South East Cornwall Colin Breed;Torridge and West Devon John Burnett; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Weston-super-Mare Brian Cotter; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; St Ives Andrew George; Edinburgh West Donald Gorrie; Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Hereford Paul Keetch; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; Aberdeenshire West and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Richmond Park Jenny Tonge; Northavon Steve Webb; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis

Elected having being elected for Predecessor Parties (3):
Southport Ronnie Fearn; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; Brecon and Radnorshire Richard Livsey

Winners of by-elections in preceding Parliament (2):
Eastleigh David Chidgey; Newbury David Rendel

Re-elected (15 MPs):
Yeovil Paddy Ashdown; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Bath Don Foster; North Devon Nick Harvey; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Ross, Skye and Inverness West Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Robert Maclennan; Argyll and Bute Ray Michie; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; North Cornwall Paul Tyler; Orkney and Shetland Jim Wallace

2001 (52 MPs)

Elected for first time (13):
Edinburgh West John Barrett; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Cheadle Patsy Calton; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichae;Guildford Sue Doughty; Ludlow Matthew Green; Chesterfield Paul Holmes; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Teignbridge Richard Younger-Ross

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Romsey Sandra Gidley

Re-elected (38):
Sheffield Hallam Richard Allan; Lewes Norman Baker; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; South East Cornwall Colin Breed; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Torridge and West Devon John Burnett; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Eastleigh David Chidgey; Weston-Super-Mare Brian Cotter; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock;Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Cheltenham Nigel Jones; Hereford Paul Keetch; Ross, Skye and Inverness West Charles Kennedy; Roxburgh and Berwickshire Archy Kirkwood; Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Southport John Pugh; Newbury David Rendel; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; Richmond Park Jenny Tonge; North Cornwall Paul Tyler; Northavon Steve Webb; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis

2005 (62 MPs)

Elected for the first time (20):
Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Danny Alexander; Taunton Jeremy Browne; Solihull Lorely Burt; Sheffield Hallam Nick Clegg; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Hornsey and Wood Green Lynne Featherstone; Falmouth and Camborne Julia Goldsworthy; Birmingham, Yardley John Hemming; Cheltenham Martin Horwood; Cambridge David Howarth; Eastleigh Chris Huhne; Richmond Park Susan Kramer; Manchester Withington John Leech; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; North Cornwall Dan Rogerson; Rochdale Paul Rowen; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson; Ceredigion Mark Williams; Bristol West Stephen Williams;Cardiff Central Jenny Willott

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Brent East Sarah Teather

Re-elected (41):
Lewes Norman Baker; Edinburgh West John Barrett; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; South East Cornwall Colin Breed; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Cheadle Patsy Calton; Fife North East Menzies Campbell; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Romsey Sandra Gidley;  Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; Oxford West and Abingdon Evan Harris; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Chesterfield Paul Holmes; North Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes; Hereford Paul Keetch; Ross, Skye and Lochaber Charles Kennedy; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk Michael Moore; Winchester Mark Oaten; Montgomeryshire Lembit Öpik; Southport John Pugh; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; Truro and St Austell Matthew Taylor; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Northavon Steve Webb; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Harrogate and Knaresborough Phil Willis; Teignbridge Richard Younger-Ross

2010 (57 MPs)
Elected for the first time (11):
Burnley Gordon Birtwistle; Edinburgh West Michael Crockart; St Austell and Newquay Steve Gilbert; Chippenham Duncan Hames; Cambridge Julian Huppert; Eastbourne Stephen Lloyd; Wells Tessa Munt; Southport John Pugh; Redcar Ian Swales; Bradford East David Ward; Norwich South Simon Wright

Winner of by-election in preceding Parliament (1):
Cheadle Mark Hunter

Re-elected (45)
Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Danny Alexander; Lewes Norman Baker; Berwick-upon-Tweed Alan Beith; Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Mid Dorset and North Poole Annette Brooke; Taunton Deane Jeremy Browne; Gordon Malcolm Bruce; Sutton and Cheam Paul Burstow; Solihull Lorely Burt; Twickenham Vincent Cable; North East Fife Menzies Campbell; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Sheffield, Hallam Nick Clegg; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Hornsey and Wood Green Lynne Featherstone; Bath Don Foster; St Ives Andrew George; Portsmouth South Mike Hancock; North Devon Nick Harvey; Somerton and Frome David Heath; Birmingham, Yardley John Hemming; Cheltenham Martin Horwood; Bermondsey and Old Southwark Simon Hughes; Eastleigh Chris Huhne; Ross, Skye and Lochaber Charles Kennedy; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Yeovil David Laws; Manchester Withington John Leech; Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk Michael Moore; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; Argyll and Bute Alan Reid; North Cornwall Dan Rogerson; Colchester Bob Russell; Torbay Adrian Sanders; West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Robert Smith; Hazel Grove Andrew Stunell; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson; Brent Central Sarah Teather; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross John Thurso; Thornbury and Yate Steve Webb; Ceredigion Mark Williams; Brecon and Radnorshire Roger Williams; Bristol West Stephen Williams; Cardiff Central Jenny Willott

2015 (8 MPs)

Re-elected (8):
Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Sheffield Hallam Nick Clegg; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Leeds North West Greg Mulholland; Southport John Pugh

2017 (12 MPs)

Elected for the first time (4):
Bath Wera Hobhouse Hobhouse; Edinburgh West Christine Jardine Jardine; Oxford West and Abingdon Layla Moran Moran; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Jamie Stone Stone

Re-elected (8 MPs):
Carshalton and Wallington Tom Brake; Twickenham Vincent Cable; Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; North Norfolk Norman Lamb; Eastbourne Stephen Lloyd; East Dunbartonshire Jo Swinson

2019 (11 MPs)

Elected for the first time (3):
North East Fife Wendy Chamberlain; St Albans Daisy Cooper; Twickenham Munira Wilson

Re-elected (8):
Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael; Kingston and Surbiton Edward Davey; Westmorland and Lonsdale Tim Farron; Bath Wera Hobhouse; Edinburgh West Christine Jardine; Oxford West and Abingdon Layla Moran; Richmond Park Sarah Olney; Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Jamie Stone

By-election gains 1987-2021 (16)
(excluding Mark Oaten holding Winchester)
18/10/90 Eastbourne David Bellotti
07/03/91 Ribble Valley Michael Carr
07/11/91 Kincardine and Deeside Nicol Stephen
06/05/93 Newbury David Rendel
29/07/93 Christchurch Diana Maddock
09/06/94 Eastleigh David Chidgey
27/07/95 Littleborough and Saddleworth Chris Davies
04/05/00 Romsey Sandra Gidley
18/09/03 Brent East Sarah Teather
15/07/04 Leicester South Parmjit Singh Gill
14/07/05 Cheadle Mark Hunter
09/02/06 Dunfermline and West Fife Willie Rennie
28/02/13 Eastleigh Mike Thornton
01/12/16 Richmond Park Sarah Olney
01/08/19 Brecon and Radnorshire Jane Dodds
17/06/21 Chesham and Amersham Sarah Green

So MPs newly elected for the first time as Liberal Democrats - not having been elected for predecessor party
1992 4
1997 26
2001 13
2005 20
2010 11
2015 0
2017 4
2019 3
At by-elections 16
Total: 97

Wow! That's much more thorough than I could ever be bothered to be. Thanks very much for the effort. This started with a bit of idle speculation on my part and I had a go at working it out but I knew that there was a strong possibility, knowing this forum, that somebody here would spot the errors for me and it's those pesky ratters and re-ratters that make it challenging. It certainly looks right now to me but of course you now have laid down the challenge for anyone here to find any more mistakes!

[michael2019]

Jun 23, 2021 6:19:41 GMT yellowperil said:

Wow! That's much more thorough than I could ever be bothered to be. Thanks very much for the effort. This started with a bit of idle speculation on my part and I had a go at working it out but I knew that there was a strong possibility, knowing this forum, that somebody here would spot the errors for me and it's those pesky ratters and re-ratters that make it challenging. It certainly looks right now to me but of course you now have laid down the challenge for anyone here to find any more mistakes!

Thanks! Yes - I probably put more effort into it than it merited! But I did think it interesting - especially given that the Lib Dems are coming up to their 100th MP so elected - even if we do have to wait a little longer than we first thought (perhaps!)! But I thought it worth setting it out here in some detail so that people here can check it and we can then have a reasonably definitive answer - depending exactly what definitions you use. It was useful finding the all-time list on Wikipedia of Lib Dem MPs as I started with the lists from the Lib Dems elected at the various General Elections. But they did provide a cross-check to each other and I can't see anyone obvious that I have missed off. But..... !!!!

It is a little surprising given the number of defectors to the Lib Dems that only Bob Maclennan stayed the course but obviously being elected under new Lib Dem etc. colours has proved difficult for defectors!