peterl
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Post by peterl on May 14, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
Rather suprised to see Labour do so well. Also suprised at how quick the count was done, I'd only just gone to bed. Still, close is no win and this will do little to lift the black cloud surrounding Starmer after last week. All eyes on Batley and Spen.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on May 14, 2021 11:21:05 GMT
Well of course, nevertheless, Labour managed to pick a well-liked and capable local candidate, ran a decent campaign and managed a swing to them. Makes you wonder - with more resources we might have won it Not to mention a better climate for Labour generally, who knows even Starmer not filling his pants last weekend might have made a bit of a difference. |
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Post by Merseymike on May 14, 2021 12:19:08 GMT
Makes you wonder - with more resources we might have won it Not to mention a better climate for Labour generally, who knows even Starmer not filling his pants last weekend might have made a bit of a difference. It's certainly the case that Labour did relatively well but the SNP support isn't really shifting at all |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 14, 2021 12:43:50 GMT
SNP share holding steady, second placed unionist party perhaps getting some tactical support but not enough to overturn the seat. In other words, a similar pattern to the Holyrood elections.
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Post by johnloony on May 14, 2021 13:27:52 GMT
UKIP got 39 votes in Uxbridge in 1997.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 14, 2021 14:14:46 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening?
Why wasn't it held last week?
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Post by peterl on May 14, 2021 14:24:15 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening? Why wasn't it held last week? Since the 2007 debacle in the Holyrood/local elections, there has been a perception in Scotland that voters are confused by having to vote on multiple things on the same day, especially if different election systems are being used. |
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 14, 2021 15:18:53 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening? Why wasn't it held last week? Because, due to an embarrassing mistake by the SNP, they mixed up calling it, at the same time as their Westminster leader lauding how they had saved money by calling it to coincide with the Holyrood elections whilst claiming the Tories would cost taxpayers ten ofthousands of pounds by calling a byelection for Douglas Ross's seat later (even though he has no plans to quit Westminster). Has he actually apologised? |
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Post by southpaw1 on May 14, 2021 16:18:00 GMT
Yes it was a slightly better result for Labour but wasn't that just tactical votes from Conservatives rather than some old Labour voters returning home?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 17:10:43 GMT
If Labour replicated the SNP-Labour swing in the by-election across Scotland, they would gain Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath.
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Post by bluelabour on May 14, 2021 17:24:55 GMT
If Labour replicated the SNP-Labour swing in the by-election across Scotland, they would gain Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath. I suppose it depends on whether the Alba MPs contest their seats at the next election or if the party has wound up by then. It’s certainly a stroke of luck that they sit for Labour’s top two target seats in Scotland. |
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Post by redvers on May 15, 2021 9:27:53 GMT
So sorry if already been addressed, but why exactly is the CLP here so against Pamela Nash? She was an MP for 5 years but nearly got deselected in 2015 and wasn't selected this time. Was she seen as a bad MP?
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Post by The Bishop on May 15, 2021 9:35:36 GMT
Yes it was a slightly better result for Labour but wasn't that just tactical votes from Conservatives rather than some old Labour voters returning home? It may well be some people who voted Tory in the last few elections, but were Labour before their big collapse? |
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Post by spqr on May 15, 2021 9:41:28 GMT
So sorry if already been addressed, but why exactly is the CLP here so against Pamela Nash? She was an MP for 5 years but nearly got deselected in 2015 and wasn't selected this time. Was she seen as a bad MP? She was widely regarded as a fly-by-night character who was there only for the freebies. This Scotsman article, written at the time she was narrowly reselected in 2013, recounts some of the complaints (and there were loads) made against her: www.scotsman.com/news/politics/how-mp-pamela-nash-escaped-labour-selection-battle-1559685 |
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Post by redvers on May 15, 2021 9:52:36 GMT
So sorry if already been addressed, but why exactly is the CLP here so against Pamela Nash? She was an MP for 5 years but nearly got deselected in 2015 and wasn't selected this time. Was she seen as a bad MP? She was widely regarded as a fly-by-night character who was there only for the freebies. This Scotsman article, written at the time she was narrowly reselected in 2013, recounts some of the complaints (and there were loads) made against her: www.scotsman.com/news/politics/how-mp-pamela-nash-escaped-labour-selection-battle-1559685Ta |
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Post by The Bishop on May 15, 2021 10:01:00 GMT
Of course her original selection was not without controversy.
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Post by greenchristian on May 15, 2021 12:06:21 GMT
Someone has hastily set up a Wikipedia page for the newly-elected MP. It's unusual for someone to be elected to Westminster who didn't previously have a page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anum_Qaisar-JavedTaiwo Owatemi's page was created just after midnight on 13th December 2019, whilst the count was still in progress. So I doubt it's that unusual. |
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Post by stb12 on May 15, 2021 17:31:06 GMT
Signs of unionist tactical voting again for sure, but it does seem the overall SNP vote share is going to need to drop a bit for it to translate to a decent number of seat losses like in 2017
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Post by greenhert on May 15, 2021 18:12:57 GMT
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Post by neilm on May 15, 2021 18:49:17 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening? Why wasn't it held last week? Because, due to an embarrassing mistake by the SNP, they mixed up calling it, at the same time as their Westminster leader lauding how they had saved money by calling it to coincide with the Holyrood elections whilst claiming the Tories would cost taxpayers ten ofthousands of pounds by calling a byelection for Douglas Ross's seat later (even though he has no plans to quit Westminster). Has he actually apologised? Haha did he actually do that? What an absolute tool. |
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