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Post by greenhert on May 14, 2021 8:25:42 GMT
This could have been interesting due to the effect of "unionist" tactical voting-but just as in the Scottish Parliament elections last week it came to nothing. This will however go down in history as the first time the SNP has had to defend a parliamentary seat in a by-election.
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Post by Clark on May 14, 2021 8:48:56 GMT
Like many current SNP members, she was previously in the Labour Party
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Post by islington on May 14, 2021 8:54:27 GMT
SNP 10129 Lab 8372 Con 2812 LD 220 SDP 151 Unionist 59 Ref 45 UKIP 39 SNP maj 1757
Edited to add: Sorry, on checking back I find the numbers have already been supplied upthread.
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Post by The Bishop on May 14, 2021 9:55:14 GMT
SNP can be happy to have held, Labour to have increased their vote share. And the LibDems for narrowly beating the SDP
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Post by justin124 on May 14, 2021 10:14:54 GMT
A mildly encouraging result for Labour which implies that the seat is a realistic target at the next GE.
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Post by afleitch on May 14, 2021 10:46:15 GMT
Solid result for the SNP given the turnout.
Worth noting that the majority here in 2017 was just 0.5%.
Labour have rebounded to 2015/2017 levels and the Tory vote is back down closer to more historic levels with Labour voters returning home.
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 14, 2021 10:59:08 GMT
Yet another result which indicates that voting is based on one issue, and one side of that issue has a largely united voting force, as opposed to the other. Well of course, nevertheless, Labour managed to pick a well-liked and capable local candidate, ran a decent campaign and managed a swing to them.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 14, 2021 11:05:13 GMT
"Hey, I'm 9 today! Why are you grown ups all watching TV at my birthday party?" I wonder how the Ingrams (of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire infamy) felt on that day. They had done their deed in the immediate couple of days prior to 11/9/2001.
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Post by edgbaston on May 14, 2021 11:15:46 GMT
Yet another result which indicates that voting is based on one issue, and one side of that issue has a largely united voting force, as opposed to the other. Well of course, nevertheless, Labour managed to pick a well-liked and capable local candidate, ran a decent campaign and managed a swing to them. Makes you wonder - with more resources we might have won it
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Post by peterl on May 14, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
Rather suprised to see Labour do so well. Also suprised at how quick the count was done, I'd only just gone to bed. Still, close is no win and this will do little to lift the black cloud surrounding Starmer after last week. All eyes on Batley and Spen.
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Post by The Bishop on May 14, 2021 11:21:05 GMT
Well of course, nevertheless, Labour managed to pick a well-liked and capable local candidate, ran a decent campaign and managed a swing to them. Makes you wonder - with more resources we might have won it Not to mention a better climate for Labour generally, who knows even Starmer not filling his pants last weekend might have made a bit of a difference.
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Post by Merseymike on May 14, 2021 12:19:08 GMT
Makes you wonder - with more resources we might have won it Not to mention a better climate for Labour generally, who knows even Starmer not filling his pants last weekend might have made a bit of a difference. It's certainly the case that Labour did relatively well but the SNP support isn't really shifting at all
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 14, 2021 12:43:50 GMT
SNP share holding steady, second placed unionist party perhaps getting some tactical support but not enough to overturn the seat. In other words, a similar pattern to the Holyrood elections.
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Post by johnloony on May 14, 2021 13:27:52 GMT
UKIP got 39 votes in Uxbridge in 1997.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 14, 2021 14:14:46 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening?
Why wasn't it held last week?
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Post by peterl on May 14, 2021 14:24:15 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening? Why wasn't it held last week? Since the 2007 debacle in the Holyrood/local elections, there has been a perception in Scotland that voters are confused by having to vote on multiple things on the same day, especially if different election systems are being used.
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 14, 2021 15:18:53 GMT
Am I the only one who totally forgot this was happening? Why wasn't it held last week? Because, due to an embarrassing mistake by the SNP, they mixed up calling it, at the same time as their Westminster leader lauding how they had saved money by calling it to coincide with the Holyrood elections whilst claiming the Tories would cost taxpayers ten ofthousands of pounds by calling a byelection for Douglas Ross's seat later (even though he has no plans to quit Westminster). Has he actually apologised?
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Post by Clark on May 14, 2021 16:18:00 GMT
Yes it was a slightly better result for Labour but wasn't that just tactical votes from Conservatives rather than some old Labour voters returning home?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 17:10:43 GMT
If Labour replicated the SNP-Labour swing in the by-election across Scotland, they would gain Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath.
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Post by ClevelandYorks on May 14, 2021 17:24:55 GMT
If Labour replicated the SNP-Labour swing in the by-election across Scotland, they would gain Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath. I suppose it depends on whether the Alba MPs contest their seats at the next election or if the party has wound up by then. It’s certainly a stroke of luck that they sit for Labour’s top two target seats in Scotland.
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