Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 2, 2021 18:02:23 GMT
The Eastern churches will not be celebrating Easter until May 2nd this year, and their date is normally different from the Western churches, even if only by a week.
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Post by oldhamexile on Apr 2, 2021 19:16:59 GMT
Jim Dowson plans to stand as an Independent: Who he, I wondered? His tweets are quite revealing: the most recent few are: (1) conflating the liberation of the Falkland Islands from Argentinian occupation with the struggle against Marxist trade unions (2) religious fundamentalism (3) saying something nice about Nick Griffin (4) something about Serbian nationalism (5) something about Hungarian nationalism (6) something about Ulster Loyalist parades (7) homophobic dribble (8) throw your TV out of the window in order to defeat Covid (9) more religious bigotry Jim Dowson built up quite a profitable business out of anti-abortion campaigning, and was then hired to deploy these US-style fundraising campaigns on behalf of Nick Griffin's BNP about 15 years ago. At that time he did not make himself out to be a racial nationalist, merely someone who had been hired to do a job, and whose personal politics didn't seem to go much beyond anti-abortion activism and Ulster loyalism. Then he had a spell when (like a lot of other folk!) he fell out with Nick Griffin over money. Then he got back onside with Griffin, strangely enough in a marriage that seemed to have been brokered by Roberto Fiore, yet another chap who was an ally, then an enemy, then ally again of Griffin. Fiore has a Europe-wide network, which is where all this Knight Templar posturing comes in. Dowson, Griffin and the former Britain First leader Jayda Fransen are the main people behind the British Freedom Party (no connection with some other parties that have used that name). The organisation is based in Ulster but three of their people are standing for the Scottish Parliament – Dowson, Fransen, and former Griffinite BNP activist Joe Finnie. AFAIK in the Holyrood election Finnie and Dowson are down as 'no description', and Fransen as 'Independent'. Their party isn't yet registered with the EC. |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 2, 2021 19:56:12 GMT
Fascinates me that a Calvinist Loyalist is tweeting obviously Catholic imagery which, as greenchristian rightly points out, are in no way fundamentalist. |
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Post by oldhamexile on Apr 2, 2021 20:08:34 GMT
Fascinates me that a Calvinist Loyalist is tweeting obviously Catholic imagery which, as greenchristian rightly points out, are in no way fundamentalist. That will be the Fiore connection. Despite Dowson's Protestant and loyalist background, his latest venture is (via Fiore) linked to another small party in the Irish Republic that is very Catholic (like most of the Fiore-backed parties across Europe, including his own Italian party Forza Nuova). AFAIK Fiore is closer to the Lefebvrists than to today's Vatican. see cruxnow.com/church-in-europe/2020/11/romes-traditionalists-join-protests-over-coronavirus-restrictions/ |
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Post by Sandy on Apr 6, 2021 16:10:43 GMT
Who he, I wondered? His tweets are quite revealing: the most recent few are: (1) conflating the liberation of the Falkland Islands from Argentinian occupation with the struggle against Marxist trade unions (2) religious fundamentalism (3) saying something nice about Nick Griffin (4) something about Serbian nationalism (5) something about Hungarian nationalism (6) something about Ulster Loyalist parades (7) homophobic dribble (8) throw your TV out of the window in order to defeat Covid (9) more religious bigotry Tweets made on Good Friday talking about the Crucifixion of Jesus causing the forgiveness of sins (the tweets you label as (2)) are in no way, shape, or form fundamentalist. It's pretty much the entire point of what Christians of all kinds are celebrating around the world today. Obviously the rest of his recent twitter history is rather disturbing and revealing, but those ones simply demonstrate that the guy is at least nominally a Christian.
Let’s not forget that John nearly had an aneurysm when I quoted Revelation 21:8 at him, so it’s hardly surprising his bar for “religious fundamentalism” is remarkably low. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 6, 2021 16:13:39 GMT
Tweets made on Good Friday talking about the Crucifixion of Jesus causing the forgiveness of sins (the tweets you label as (2)) are in no way, shape, or form fundamentalist. It's pretty much the entire point of what Christians of all kinds are celebrating around the world today. Obviously the rest of his recent twitter history is rather disturbing and revealing, but those ones simply demonstrate that the guy is at least nominally a Christian.
Let’s not forget that John nearly had an aneurysm when I quoted Revelation 21:8 at him, so it’s hardly surprising his bar for “religious fundamentalism” is remarkably low. Quoting a verse like that is hardly a way to win someone around to your point of view, though. |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 7, 2021 10:19:43 GMT
Tweets made on Good Friday talking about the Crucifixion of Jesus causing the forgiveness of sins (the tweets you label as (2)) are in no way, shape, or form fundamentalist. It's pretty much the entire point of what Christians of all kinds are celebrating around the world today. Obviously the rest of his recent twitter history is rather disturbing and revealing, but those ones simply demonstrate that the guy is at least nominally a Christian.
Let’s not forget that John nearly had an aneurysm when I quoted Revelation 21:8 at him, so it’s hardly surprising his bar for “religious fundamentalism” is remarkably low. No I didn't. I merely calmly rationally logically pointed out that you were a dilly twigliak. |
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 14, 2021 7:09:24 GMT
William Hill has a SNP victory on 1/16
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 14, 2021 9:13:56 GMT
William Hill has a SNP victory on 1/16 Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. |
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 14, 2021 10:50:45 GMT
William Hill has a SNP victory on 1/16 Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. Labour were on 7/1. Worth a punt? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 14, 2021 11:08:22 GMT
definitely worth a punt
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 14, 2021 11:10:22 GMT
Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. Labour were on 7/1. Worth a punt? I stay clear of it myself, but on Betfair you can "lay" a bet as well as make it. So you could lay Labour at e.g. 1/7 and collect if the SNP (or any one else) win (and, of course, if any one takes your bet). Betfair take a commission though. |
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 14, 2021 11:31:49 GMT
William Hill has a SNP victory on 1/16 Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. No shit Sherlock! Well who would have thought it? The Bookies want to win and particularly not to lose! Wow! I didn't know that. Wow! |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 14, 2021 12:09:59 GMT
Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. No shit Sherlock! Well who would have thought it? The Bookies want to win and particularly not to lose! Wow! I didn't know that. Wow! Come of it carlton43, the odds have to be rational, otherwise nobody would bet and the booked would lose out. The loss have to be based on evidence. P.S. I cannot be wound up by anybody right now, I am having my Christmas/Eater break in a cottage near Mansergh. Me and the Springer and a cracking Talisker and/or Laphroaig to see off the evening with some Colston Basset Stilton. Presently eating a |
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 14, 2021 12:42:05 GMT
No shit Sherlock! Well who would have thought it? The Bookies want to win and particularly not to lose! Wow! I didn't know that. Wow! Come of it carlton43, the odds have to be rational, otherwise nobody would bet and the booked would lose out. The loss have to be based on evidence. P.S. I cannot be wound up by anybody right now, I am having my Christmas/Eater break in a cottage near Mansergh. Me and the Springer and a cracking Talisker and/or Laphroaig to see off the evening with some Colston Basset Stilton. Presently eating a Eating a what? We demand to know  |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 14, 2021 12:51:44 GMT
Come of it carlton43, the odds have to be rational, otherwise nobody would bet and the booked would lose out. The loss have to be based on evidence. P.S. I cannot be wound up by anybody right now, I am having my Christmas/Eater break in a cottage near Mansergh. Me and the Springer and a cracking Talisker and/or Laphroaig to see off the evening with some Colston Basset Stilton. Presently eating a Eating a what? We demand to know Ha...a Carpaccio salad with a glass of Tokaji. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 14, 2021 12:58:21 GMT
Well, that is just ridiculous, even if the SNP are favourites, recent election results would have the odds much closer. This is why betting is a con - the betting companies make the odds extremely unattractive so they are not taken up and they don't have to pay out so much. Labour came within 195 votes of retaking the seat in 2017 and are not impossibly behind now. Rubbish odds. Labour were on 7/1. Worth a punt? One bookmaker is currently offering 7/1 against Brian Rose being the next Mayor of London. I would suggest that the chances of Brian Rose winning the election for Mayor of London are not remotely in the same league as the chances of Labour winning the Airdrie and Shotts byelection. |
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 14, 2021 13:17:35 GMT
No shit Sherlock! Well who would have thought it? The Bookies want to win and particularly not to lose! Wow! I didn't know that. Wow! Come of it carlton43 , the odds have to be rational, otherwise nobody would bet and the booked would lose out. The loss have to be based on evidence. P.S. I cannot be wound up by anybody right now, I am having my Christmas/Eater break in a cottage near Mansergh. Me and the Springer and a cracking Talisker and/or Laphroaig to see off the evening with some Colston Basset Stilton. Presently eating a Excellent and well deserved with cracking ingredients. But the abrupt ending does rather suggest 'A Person from Porlock' moment or an anecdote noir? |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 14, 2021 14:30:23 GMT
Come of it carlton43 , the odds have to be rational, otherwise nobody would bet and the booked would lose out. The loss have to be based on evidence. P.S. I cannot be wound up by anybody right now, I am having my Christmas/Eater break in a cottage near Mansergh. Me and the Springer and a cracking Talisker and/or Laphroaig to see off the evening with some Colston Basset Stilton. Presently eating a Excellent and well deserved with cracking ingredients. But the abrupt ending does rather suggest 'A Person from Porlock' momement or an anecdote noir? Was taking a quaff of Tokaji and pressed the reply button early. I enjoyed the Coleridgw reference..my only unwelcome guest is the pooch's attempt to stick her nose on my plate. |
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 14, 2021 15:09:34 GMT
Excellent and well deserved with cracking ingredients. But the abrupt ending does rather suggest 'A Person from Porlock' momement or an anecdote noir? Was taking a quaff of Tokaji and pressed the reply button early. I enjoyed the Coleridgw reference..my only unwelcome guest is the pooch's attempt to stick her nose on my plate. And we assume that is not for you Cockney slang? |
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