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Post by carlton43 on Mar 26, 2021 1:02:11 GMT
If this is a Conservative gain, I shall surgically transition. Come on Airdrie. Do the decent thing. This I must see. |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 26, 2021 9:17:53 GMT
Surprised they didn't select Pamela Nash, whose leading role as a pro-Union campaigner would have been attractive to the Tory voters.
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 26, 2021 9:21:27 GMT
Surprised they didn't select Pamela Nash, whose leading role as a pro-Union campaigner would have been attractive to the Tory voters. will be along in a minute to remind you that over half of Labour's MPs are women. |
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Post by MacShimidh on Mar 26, 2021 9:23:57 GMT
Surprised they didn't select Pamela Nash, whose leading role as a pro-Union campaigner would have been attractive to the Tory voters. There must still be a lot in the CLP who aren’t too fond of her - she nearly got deselected in 2015 IIRC. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 26, 2021 9:24:53 GMT
Surprised they didn't select Pamela Nash, whose leading role as a pro-Union campaigner would have been attractive to the Tory voters. I wouldn't imagine anyone who doesn't slavishly follow the current mantra would get on the shortlist anyway. |
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Post by MacShimidh on Mar 26, 2021 11:13:25 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Mar 26, 2021 13:17:31 GMT
If only it could have been held on 6 May to coincide with the Scottish Parliament election. Then again, with the current COVID restrictions, it would have caused more headaches for counting staff due to the need to delay counting for the Scottish Parliament election....
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Mar 26, 2021 13:54:50 GMT
Best thing to do then would be to end the restrictions on May 5th (or preferably before).
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Post by bsjmcr on Mar 26, 2021 15:01:01 GMT
How come Blackford was saying at PMQs (in a jibe referring to Douglas Ross’ decision not to step down as MP yet while standing in the SP) that the now former MP’s decision to step down and stand at the same time as the SP election would “save £175,000”. But now it turns out the by election would not be on the same day as the SP election? Out of the SNP’s control I assume but wouldn’t it be the case now that it would cost more to administer a completely separate election rather than doing it on the same day which would have saved the £175,000 he speaks of? |
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Post by peterl on Mar 26, 2021 15:03:59 GMT
This is why setting the date for by elections should not be a political decision. Leave it to the returning officer to set a date within a certain timeframe and they will pick the cheapest day to hold it on.
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 26, 2021 15:05:38 GMT
I wonder if Salmond's new ego trip will , Alba manage to keep their deposit.
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Post by bsjmcr on Mar 26, 2021 15:19:04 GMT
I wonder if Salmond's new ego trip will , Alba manage to keep their deposit. Didn’t he say they were only going to stand in List seats so as not to directly take votes away from the SNP? |
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Post by MacShimidh on Mar 26, 2021 15:32:17 GMT
How come Blackford was saying at PMQs (in a jibe referring to Douglas Ross’ decision not to step down as MP yet while standing in the SP) that the now former MP’s decision to step down and stand at the same time as the SP election would “save £175,000”. But now it turns out the by election would not be on the same day as the SP election? Out of the SNP’s control I assume but wouldn’t it be the case now that it would cost more to administer a completely separate election rather than doing it on the same day which would have saved the £175,000 he speaks of? It looks like Blackford made the schoolboy error of coming up with a talking point before all the facts had been established. Nothing unusual for him! That being said, North Lanarkshire Council is run by a Labour minority propped up by the Tories, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they selected the date in part to make the SNP look foolish. |
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 26, 2021 17:19:50 GMT
I wonder if Salmond's new ego trip will , Alba manage to keep their deposit. Didn’t he say they were only going to stand in List seats so as not to directly take votes away from the SNP? You mean the List seats that the SNP will be standing in? |
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Post by john07 on Mar 26, 2021 23:24:50 GMT
Didn’t he say they were only going to stand in List seats so as not to directly take votes away from the SNP? You mean the List seats that the SNP will be standing in? I assume the narrative is that as the SNP win most of the constituency seats in most areas so they will not have much scope to take list seats. Many years ago Ian Davidson suggested the Labour should not contest the list seats in Scotland but leave that to the Co-operative Party. I doubt that the Co-op Party would have been considered as a separate party from Labour in this context. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 26, 2021 23:37:04 GMT
You mean the List seats that the SNP will be standing in? I assume the narrative is that as the SNP win most of the constituency seats in most areas so they will not have much scope to take list seats. Many years ago Ian Davidson suggested the Labour should not contest the list seats in Scotland but leave that to the Co-operative Party. I doubt that the Co-op Party would have been considered as a separate party from Labour in this context. Oh was it Ian Davidson? I had it my head that it was Lord Foulkes. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 27, 2021 1:00:32 GMT
I assume the narrative is that as the SNP win most of the constituency seats in most areas so they will not have much scope to take list seats. Many years ago Ian Davidson suggested the Labour should not contest the list seats in Scotland but leave that to the Co-operative Party. I doubt that the Co-op Party would have been considered as a separate party from Labour in this context. Oh was it Ian Davidson? I had it my head that it was Lord Foulkes. No it was definately Davidson. I remember him being interviewed on TV about it. I knew Ian Davidson very well back in the 1970s from NUS and NOLS (Labour Students). He stayed at my house in Cheadle Hulme once when he was NOLS Chairman. I still wouldn't trust him futher than I could throw him. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 1:24:22 GMT
You mean the List seats that the SNP will be standing in? I assume the narrative is that as the SNP win most of the constituency seats in most areas so they will not have much scope to take list seats. Many years ago Ian Davidson suggested the Labour should not contest the list seats in Scotland but leave that to the Co-operative Party. I doubt that the Co-op Party would have been considered as a separate party from Labour in this context. Why not? They're a separate party with their own constitution aren't they? |
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Post by bsjmcr on Mar 27, 2021 1:56:27 GMT
Ah - answer to my earlier question above (apologies for the source... and it lets Mr Ross off the hook as it says 'he is not standing down' when surely he would not serve in both at the same time, he just hasn't said, and a BE would be inevitable anyway when he does stand down. If anything, it's an insurance for him, could he even lose in the SP if Salmond's party does well on the list in his region?). Anyway, apparently Mr Gray resigned 'too late' in order to have it on the same day. order-order.com/2021/03/26/blackfords-spectacular-by-election-own-goal/ |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Mar 27, 2021 13:55:51 GMT
I do hope we see an Alba Party candidate for this one.
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