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Post by eurofighter! on Mar 17, 2021 20:11:51 GMT
Very nice! Great results.
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Post by minionofmidas on Mar 17, 2021 20:21:21 GMT
VVD: 35 zetels (+2)
D66: 27 zetels (+8)
PVV: 17 zetels (-3)
CDA: 14 zetels (-5)
PvdA: 9 zetels (0)
GroenLinks: 8 zetels (-6)
SP: 8 zetels (-6)
Forum voor Democratie: 7 zetels (+5)
Partij voor de Dieren: 6 zetels (+1)
ChristenUnie: 4 zetels (-1)
SGP: 3 zetels (0)
DENK: 2 zetels (-1)
50PLUS: 1 zetel (-3)
New parties:
Volt: 4 zetels
Ja21: 3 zetels
BoerBurgerBeweging: 1 zetel
Bij1: 1 zetel
Did anybody see that D66 surge coming?
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 17, 2021 20:28:23 GMT
JA21 predicted to enter Parliament with 3 seats.
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 17, 2021 20:29:24 GMT
Volt predicted to enter Parliament with 4 seats
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Post by connor on Mar 17, 2021 20:30:23 GMT
No, not at all. Fantastic for D66. They should build on that result for the next four years and really go for the office in 2025. Rutte at that point will be more tired and yesterday's news. Yet after seeing his numbers, he has proven to have staying power. PVV down is a good sign. Wilders though will linger, lick his wounds and come back. Surprised Labour stayed on the same numbers. Even more surprised Green & Socialists went down. FVD going up wasn't expected but still interesting. Good news for Volt. Had to google search BBB to find out who they were. I'm happy. Be good for Dutch farming to get representation.
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VVD - D66 - CDA (76 Seats). If they want to further their majority, then they will probably bring in CU or Volt depending on what they want to acheive.
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Post by eurofighter! on Mar 17, 2021 20:33:13 GMT
No, not at all. Fantastic for D66. They should build on that result for the next four years and really go for the office in 2025. Rutte at that point will be more tired and yesterday's news. Yet after seeing his numbers, he has proven to have staying power. PVV down is a good sign. Wilders though will linger, lick his wounds and come back. Surprised Labour stayed on the same numbers. Even more surprised Green & Socialists went down. FVD going up wasn't expected but still interesting. Good news for Volt. Had to google search BBB to find out who they were. I'm happy. Be good for Dutch farming to get representation. Predicted Coalition VVD - D66 - CDA (76 Seats). If they want to further their majority, then they will probably bring in CU or Volt depending on what they want to acheive. The coalition will be expanded so that they can pass the Senate too. But with minor parties bargaining is possible. Rutte loves making deals with small parties and the Left. His party members hate it, but he always gets his way. |
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Post by jamie on Mar 17, 2021 20:33:54 GMT
D66: 27 zetels (+8) Did anybody see that D66 surge coming? They were polling at 19 and were on the up but that’s way higher than you would have expected. |
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Post by jamie on Mar 17, 2021 20:38:07 GMT
Given their shambolic result last time (and the clear reason for it), standing still is very embarrassing for Labour. Also a poor result for PVV assuming it’s accurate.
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Post by connor on Mar 17, 2021 20:39:40 GMT
No, not at all. Fantastic for D66. They should build on that result for the next four years and really go for the office in 2025. Rutte at that point will be more tired and yesterday's news. Yet after seeing his numbers, he has proven to have staying power. PVV down is a good sign. Wilders though will linger, lick his wounds and come back. Surprised Labour stayed on the same numbers. Even more surprised Green & Socialists went down. FVD going up wasn't expected but still interesting. Good news for Volt. Had to google search BBB to find out who they were. I'm happy. Be good for Dutch farming to get representation. Predicted Coalition VVD - D66 - CDA (76 Seats). If they want to further their majority, then they will probably bring in CU or Volt depending on what they want to acheive. The coalition will be expanded so that they can pass the Senate too. But with minor parties bargaining is possible. Rutte loves making deals with small parties and the Left. His party members hate it, but he always gets his way. Any ideas on who he will go with? Is he a big europhile? If so, Volt could be about to fast passed into major politics. Otherwise the CU could be back in. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2021 22:08:32 GMT
Did anybody see that D66 surge coming? The pundits saw a momentum after the good performance of ite leader in the debates. But not the largeness. 4 years ago i expected D'66 to crash&burn - as always, when they had been in government... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 17, 2021 22:17:20 GMT
Volt predicted to enter Parliament with 4 seats Is that Volt's first appearance in a national legislature? |
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 17, 2021 22:22:46 GMT
Turnout today was 82.6% the highest since 1986.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 17, 2021 22:31:32 GMT
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Post by connor on Mar 17, 2021 22:36:42 GMT
Volt predicted to enter Parliament with 4 seats Is that Volt's first appearance in a national legislature? I think so. Don't recall them running in 2017. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 17, 2021 22:37:22 GMT
Volt predicted to enter Parliament with 4 seats Is that Volt's first appearance in a national legislature? Will they make a potential difference? That’s a bit of a shock! |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 17, 2021 22:41:52 GMT
Is that Volt's first appearance in a national legislature? Will they make a potential difference? That’s a bit of a shock! What’s their current policies? They may face some resistance. Hope they aren’t some kind of fifth coulombists. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 17, 2021 22:45:40 GMT
Will they make a potential difference? That’s a bit of a shock! What’s their current policies? They may face some resistance. Hope they aren’t some kind of fifth coulombists. Watt are you referring to? |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Mar 17, 2021 22:57:14 GMT
And some of their supporters probably fill the time by clicking on another type of website. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 23:25:32 GMT
VVD: 35 zetels (+2) D66: 27 zetels (+8) PVV: 17 zetels (-3) CDA: 14 zetels (-5) PvdA: 9 zetels (0) GroenLinks: 8 zetels (-6) SP: 8 zetels (-6) Forum voor Democratie: 7 zetels (+5) Partij voor de Dieren: 6 zetels (+1) ChristenUnie: 4 zetels (-1) SGP: 3 zetels (0) DENK: 2 zetels (-1) 50PLUS: 1 zetel (-3) New parties: Volt: 4 zetels Ja21: 3 zetels BoerBurgerBeweging: 1 zetel Bij1: 1 zetel Did anybody see that D66 surge coming? That looks like a brutalising for the left |
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Post by mboy on Mar 17, 2021 23:29:02 GMT
Oh to live in a country where liberal parties come first AND second!  Congrats to Rutte. He's very much my kind of liberal - patriotic and realistic liberalism that gets results and keeps the loons locked out. We could learn a lot from him. |
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