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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 3, 2020 21:00:42 GMT
Our next major European election is scheduled for 17th March 2021 unless the Tweede Kamer is dissolved early.
There are a few new faces as leaders. D66 have appointed Sigrid Kraag, who has decided to go all Swinson and declare she can be the next prime minister. The CDA have, after a year-long interregnum, appointed a chap called Hugo de Jonge. Otherwise, Rutte is running again for the VVD. If he forms a new government, he might well end up as the longest-serving Dutch PM, overtaking Ruud Lubbers. As things stand, he might well do, as the VVD are riding high in the polls again, and potential coalitions might be easier to form this time.
Otherwise it's the usual cast of Marxoid sects, Wilders, one-issue loons, religious fundamentalists, and the truly revolting Denk.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 3, 2020 23:17:00 GMT
Our next major European election is scheduled for 17th March 2021 unless the Tweede Kamer is dissolved early. There are two big Landtag elections in Germany set for three days earlier. But this one seems to be the next major national election anywhere in the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 14:55:57 GMT
Our next major European election is scheduled for 17th March 2021 unless the Tweede Kamer is dissolved early. There are a few new faces as leaders. D66 have appointed Sigrid Kraag, who has decided to go all Swinson and declare she can be the next prime minister. The CDA have, after a year-long interregnum, appointed a chap called Hugo de Jonge. Otherwise, Rutte is running again for the VVD. If he forms a new government, he might well end up as the longest-serving Dutch PM, overtaking Ruud Lubbers. As things stand, he might well do, as the VVD are riding high in the polls again, and potential coalitions might be easier to form this time. Otherwise it's the usual cast of Marxoid sects, Wilders, one-issue loons, religious fundamentalists, and the truly revolting Denk. Given how fragmented these usually end up, she might be right. Practically anyone can end up prime minister |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 4, 2020 15:22:14 GMT
Our next major European election is scheduled for 17th March 2021 unless the Tweede Kamer is dissolved early. There are a few new faces as leaders. D66 have appointed Sigrid Kraag, who has decided to go all Swinson and declare she can be the next prime minister. The CDA have, after a year-long interregnum, appointed a chap called Hugo de Jonge. Otherwise, Rutte is running again for the VVD. If he forms a new government, he might well end up as the longest-serving Dutch PM, overtaking Ruud Lubbers. As things stand, he might well do, as the VVD are riding high in the polls again, and potential coalitions might be easier to form this time. Otherwise it's the usual cast of Marxoid sects, Wilders, one-issue loons, religious fundamentalists, and the truly revolting Denk. Given how fragmented these usually end up, she might be right. Practically anyone can end up prime minister Certainly anyone can end up in government, but not as PM. Remember that Rutte is the first Liberal PM since 1918- all others since have been CDA, PvdA, or one of their predecessor parties. And they've only had five PMs since December 1977! |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 28, 2020 5:10:24 GMT
Current polling shows strong gains for the VVD and, surprisingly, the CU. Surely VVD-CDA-D66-CU is on again.
The VVD have been quite ruthless. Of their 33 sitting MPs, 17 have not been selected to stand again. Rutte is the Lijsttrekker (list leader), followed by the deputy health minister Tamara van Ark. In some ways, this is not a surprise- no member of the cabinet was born after 1979, and most are well into their sixties.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 28, 2020 16:03:29 GMT
Current polling shows strong gains for the VVD and, surprisingly, the CU. Surely VVD-CDA-D66-CU is on again. The VVD have been quite ruthless. Of their 33 sitting MPs, 17 have not been selected to stand again. Rutte is the Lijsttrekker (list leader), followed by the deputy health minister Tamara van Ark. In some ways, this is not a surprise- no member of the cabinet was born after 1979, and most are well into their sixties. Quite a few of those retirements will have been voluntary, especially with most of the Rutte Cabinet being over 60 years of age. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 28, 2020 16:06:58 GMT
Current polling shows strong gains for the VVD and, surprisingly, the CU. Surely VVD-CDA-D66-CU is on again. The VVD have been quite ruthless. Of their 33 sitting MPs, 17 have not been selected to stand again. Rutte is the Lijsttrekker (list leader), followed by the deputy health minister Tamara van Ark. In some ways, this is not a surprise- no member of the cabinet was born after 1979, and most are well into their sixties. Quite a few of those retirements will have been voluntary, especially with most of the Rutte Cabinet being over 60 years of age. Quite a few are indeed, but from what I can find, the gossip is that a fair few were less than voluntary! At any rate, it is quite a turnover. |
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Post by connor on Jan 7, 2021 17:03:17 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 7, 2021 22:56:20 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever. Unless there's some new politician on the scene I'm unaware of, then I think you mean Geert Wilders. The main issue he's succeeded in keeping near the top of the agenda involves integration and national identity more than his personal style of leadership anyway. I like how the Dutch system encourages consensus, and that if said consensus breaks down there's always a new election rather than cobbling together an alternative majority with the existing Parliament. That said, in the week in which the UK started another boundary review (for which many forum members are solely or principally here), I can't say I admire the effective complete lack of constituencies in the Netherlands. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 8, 2021 4:04:13 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever. The economy, immigration and Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 8, 2021 19:53:40 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever. The economy, immigration and Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. Economy including the EU-funds for southern Europe. |
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Post by Foggy on Jan 9, 2021 5:41:49 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever. The economy, immigration and Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. DENK says hoi. Or rather, hı. |
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Post by eurofighter! on Jan 14, 2021 11:10:55 GMT
Aside from Covid and Gert Winders, what are the main issues for this election? Love the Dutch style of democracy, with the fact that there is no chance of majority whatsoever. The economy, immigration and Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. lol nowhere near. Keep up your fantasies about Lowland politics though. The issues are Covid management and for the moment a benefits scandal that is threatening to bring down the government. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2021 12:04:25 GMT
The economy, immigration and Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. lol nowhere near. Keep up your fantasies about Lowland politics though. The issues are Covid management and for the moment a benefits scandal that is threatening to bring down the government. What's the snide tone about? |
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Post by matureleft on Jan 14, 2021 12:32:10 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 14, 2021 12:39:38 GMT
Well if their government is anything like ours, "not planning to" very possibly means "its happening tomorrow".
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Post by ClevelandYorks on Jan 14, 2021 12:53:57 GMT
...Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. Could you expand? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2021 13:04:22 GMT
...Erdoganist infiltration, I'd say. Could you expand? There's a particularly grim party called Denk, who are Erdo groupies. They were caught (and censured in the Tweede Kamer) last year releasing videos targeting Turkish-heritage politicians in other parties and accusing them of being traitors (the country in question was of course not mentioned) which ended up in a campaign of hate mail and intimidation. |
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Post by maxque on Jan 14, 2021 14:27:02 GMT
lol nowhere near. Keep up your fantasies about Lowland politics though. The issues are Covid management and for the moment a benefits scandal that is threatening to bring down the government. What's the snide tone about? Your obsession about pushing irrelevent side-issues. Obviously, most people in Netherlands will care more about COVID (especially given how they bungled the answer to it) that an issue concerning a small minority group. In any case, no matter the country, electoral campaigns are rarely about foreign affairs and, honestly, you're quite smart and should know better. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2021 15:27:42 GMT
What's the snide tone about? Your obsession about pushing irrelevent side-issues. Obviously, most people in Netherlands will care more about COVID (especially given how they bungled the answer to it) that an issue concerning a small minority group. In any case, no matter the country, electoral campaigns are rarely about foreign affairs and, honestly, you're quite smart and should know better. It's not an irrelevant side-issue. Rutte's row with Erdogan (particularly in 2017 but resurfacing as recently as October), and the behaviour of Denk towards other parliamentarians, are noteworthy events and talking-points of his current term. |
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