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Post by cefin on Sept 15, 2014 17:53:18 GMT
www.itv.com/news/wales/2014-09-15/polls-pointers-for-next-general-election/
UKIP clearly not far off replacing plaid as Wales' third party.
I knew all that racism nonsense emanating from Leanne, the Carmarthen foghorn and other assorted plaid grandees in general wouldn't help their cause, Welsh people just don't like the bigots calling anyone UnWelsh just because they won't vote for the backward friends of the druids party.
The idiots have put their party back light years as UKIP hoover up the deserting Labour vote which was plaids only hope of breaking out of their isolated areas.
Mind you the cons are looking a little rocky as well. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 15, 2014 19:53:29 GMT
www.itv.com/news/wales/2014-09-15/polls-pointers-for-next-general-election/
UKIP clearly not far off replacing plaid as Wales' third party.
I knew all that racism nonsense emanating from Leanne, the Carmarthen foghorn and other assorted plaid grandees in general wouldn't help their cause, Welsh people just don't like the bigots calling anyone UnWelsh just because they won't vote for the backward friends of the druids party. But despite the allegations of racism being levelled at her by a certain poster on this forum, her net approval rating rose, and by more than that of any other party leader that was polled for. Care to explain how that squares with your assertion that the alleged racism is damaging both her and her party? |
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Post by cefin on Sept 15, 2014 20:31:58 GMT
www.itv.com/news/wales/2014-09-15/polls-pointers-for-next-general-election/
UKIP clearly not far off replacing plaid as Wales' third party.
I knew all that racism nonsense emanating from Leanne, the Carmarthen foghorn and other assorted plaid grandees in general wouldn't help their cause, Welsh people just don't like the bigots calling anyone UnWelsh just because they won't vote for the backward friends of the druids party. But despite the allegations of racism being levelled at her by a certain poster on this forum, her net approval rating rose, and by more than that of any other party leader that was polled for. Care to explain how that squares with your assertion that the alleged racism is damaging both her and her party?
Judging by her latest performance on BBC Wales tonight pity I'd imagine
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Post by cibwr on Sept 21, 2014 12:53:59 GMT
Well you are hardly an unbiased commentator, she speaks well and what she says seems to resonate with voters.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 24, 2014 8:42:31 GMT
Welsh WESTMINSTER voting intention
Labour.38
Con....23
UKIP...14
Plaid..13
LibDem..7
Others..4
(ICM - 1,006 Welsh adults aged 18 or over by telephone on 19-22nd September 2014)
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Post by john07 on Sept 24, 2014 12:22:38 GMT
There was a poll on those supporting Wales as an independent country reported on Radio 4 this morning.
Apparently support has fallen from 5% to 3%!
Does anyone know anything about this poll?
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 24, 2014 13:38:34 GMT
Welsh WESTMINSTER voting intention Labour.38 Con....23 UKIP...14 Plaid..13 LibDem..7 Others..4 (ICM - 1,006 Welsh adults aged 18 or over by telephone on 19-22nd September 2014) On UNS those figures would result in just three seats changing hands: Brecon and Radnor: LD to Con Cardiff North: Con to Lab Cardiff Central: LD to Lab. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 24, 2014 13:56:16 GMT
There was a poll on those supporting Wales as an independent country reported on Radio 4 this morning. Apparently support has fallen from 5% to 3%! Does anyone know anything about this poll? Story here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29331475 |
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Post by john07 on Sept 24, 2014 15:39:16 GMT
There was a poll on those supporting Wales as an independent country reported on Radio 4 this morning. Apparently support has fallen from 5% to 3%! Does anyone know anything about this poll? Story here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29331475 Thanks. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 24, 2014 17:41:50 GMT
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 24, 2014 20:35:06 GMT
Welsh WESTMINSTER voting intention Labour.38 Con....23 UKIP...14 Plaid..13 LibDem..7 Others..4 (ICM - 1,006 Welsh adults aged 18 or over by telephone on 19-22nd September 2014) On UNS those figures would result in just three seats changing hands: Brecon and Radnor: LD to Con Cardiff North: Con to Lab Cardiff Central: LD to Lab. Changes on Election 2010: Labour +2%, Conservatives -3% (2.5% swing from Con to Lab), Liberal Democrats -13%, Plaid Cymru +2% (7.5% swing from Lib Dem to Plaid), UKIP +12%, Others unchanged |
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Post by cibwr on Sept 28, 2014 9:26:35 GMT
There was a poll on those supporting Wales as an independent country reported on Radio 4 this morning. Apparently support has fallen from 5% to 3%! Does anyone know anything about this poll? A multi question poll, putting support for a stronger National Assembly at 49%. A poll a few days earlier had support for independence at 17% So make of it what you will. My guess is that most would like more powers to the National Assembly now with many of those backing that also wanting independence, while 3% would like independence now. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 9, 2014 9:55:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 14:28:14 GMT
Plaid behind UKIP on the regional  and the Lib Dems in sixth behind the Greens. Do we really think either of these could happen? |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 9, 2014 14:54:08 GMT
Neither are absolutely implausible, but remember that Welsh polls suck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 15:19:18 GMT
Westminster: Lab 38, Con 23, UKIP 17, PC 11, LD 6, Grn 5
Assembly constituency: Lab 36, Con 21, PC 19, UKIP 12, LD 6, Grn 4
Assembly regional list: Lab 31, Con 21, UKIP 17, PC 16, Grn 7, LD 5
God help us if certain Welsh Greens got elected...
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 9, 2014 15:21:51 GMT
Don't worry, they'll find a way of fucking it up. Besides the regional list figures are always absolute junk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 16:09:50 GMT
There is plenty of potential for UKIP in Wales to take the anti-politics vote and at the last couple of Welsh Assembly elections the combined UKIP + BNP vote has been quite high and enough for at least a seat.
At the next elections UKIP should aim for a seat in every region at least.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Oct 9, 2014 18:50:46 GMT
Interesting the the BNP vote it the natural territory of UKIP....
I think the anti politics appeal of UKIP has to be challenged, look at the current UKIP MEP for Wales who claimed to be a non politician while clearly being one. With increased poll ratings comes increased scrutiny.
Having said that I fully expect to see UKIP AMs after the next Welsh General Election - usual health warning on Welsh Polls.
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Post by cefin on Oct 9, 2014 19:29:35 GMT
Interesting the the BNP vote it the natural territory of UKIP.... I think the anti politics appeal of UKIP has to be challenged, look at the current UKIP MEP for Wales who claimed to be a non politician while clearly being one. With increased poll ratings comes increased scrutiny.
I see..... so you're deciding who exactly votes for who now then are you? Wonderful insight into the machinations of polling booth activity.
As regards your second comment how exactly do you define a politician then?
I'd have thought it a quite simple definition......someone who has been elected surely?
Anyone who has stood for election and not been elected is surely a failed politician with aspirations not an actual politician.
Nathan Gill had never been elected to anything until this years Euro's, by your definition every single assistant, secretary, chauffer, cleaner, clerk etc etc employed by an MP, MEP, Police Commissioner or County councillor is a politician.
Look, as I've explained before, it's not my fault that the self certified party of Wales have slipped out of the top 3 of Welsh politics as UKIP the Real party of Wales overtake them whilst handing down political scraps to plaid in the form of the gift of keeping their Welsh MEP seat due to UKIP just failing to top the Euro election in Wales.
Just accept the gift with good grace and stop whining about the party that left Wales' fading dreamers trailing in their wake by such a massive margin.
You'll feel better for it and UKIP might throw you a few more scraps now and again if you stop being nasty.
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and the Lib Dems in sixth behind the Greens. 