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Post by arnieg on Apr 8, 2020 8:19:18 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 8, 2020 10:35:53 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 10, 2020 23:10:24 GMT
A nice crossover with the "elections in fiction" thread here. One to submit for all the major prizes.
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Post by tamar on Apr 11, 2020 0:55:09 GMT
A nice crossover with the "elections in fiction" thread here. One to submit for all the major prizes. God bless the Dear Leader and his obsession with Bavaria. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 11, 2020 1:10:01 GMT
A nice crossover with the "elections in fiction" thread here. One to submit for all the major prizes. God bless the Dear Leader and his obsession with Bavaria. It's the lederhosen, isn't it? |
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Post by tamar on Apr 11, 2020 1:27:44 GMT
God bless the Dear Leader and his obsession with Bavaria. It's the lederhosen, isn't it? He believes Bavaria is the sort of society he wants to create, or at least wants other people to believe that. It's hard to tell to what extent he's in touch with reality these days. Duda will obviously walk this, the consolation (such as it is) is that he will have a weak mandate and the loathsome Kidawa-Błońska may get the joke result she so richly deserves. And there will be a reckoning, eventually. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 11, 2020 2:18:48 GMT
It's the lederhosen, isn't it? He believes Bavaria is the sort of society he wants to create, or at least wants other people to believe that. It's hard to tell to what extent he's in touch with reality these days. Duda will obviously walk this, the consolation (such as it is) is that he will have a weak mandate and the loathsome Kidawa-Błońska may get the joke result she so richly deserves. And there will be a reckoning, eventually. Bavaria? With many immigrants, lots of liberal SubUrbers (due to the thriving economy), rich of media, high PopulationDensity? Understandable during F.J.Strauss, nowadays a little bit outdated. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 11, 2020 10:26:33 GMT
It's the lederhosen, isn't it? He believes Bavaria is the sort of society he wants to create, or at least wants other people to believe that. It's hard to tell to what extent he's in touch with reality these days. Duda will obviously walk this, the consolation (such as it is) is that he will have a weak mandate and the loathsome Kidawa-Błońska may get the joke result she so richly deserves. And there will be a reckoning, eventually. I know nothing about her, or indeed any of the other apparent candidates - could we tempt you to do a quick summary? |
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Post by The Bishop on May 7, 2020 11:34:05 GMT
Encouraging news, Poland may yet avoid full Orbanisation.
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Post by tamar on May 15, 2020 20:49:10 GMT
Kidawa-Blonska, having become a stock joke, has now been forced to step down as PO's candidate for President in a humiliating press conference. (The exit she'd earned, frankly, we all know this and the attempts from PiS politicians and Polish Left Twitter to pretend otherwise are blatantly opportunistic.) She has been replaced by Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski.
I largely lost interest in this election due to the interminable wrangling over the date and the revelation that I would probably not get a vote due to the fact that, if expecting Poczta Polska to organise an all-postal election in which millions of ballots would have to be returned in a very short period of time was brave to start with, expecting Royal Mail to play along was simply risible and a non-starter. I've started to pay a bit more attention now that it may not be completely rigged after all, so I may yet end up writing a shamelessly biased run-down of the candidates at some point in the next few days.
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Post by cj on May 15, 2020 21:01:25 GMT
(snip) I largely lost interest in this election due to the interminable wrangling over the date and the revelation that I would probably not get a vote due to the fact that, if expecting Poczta Polska to organise an all-postal election in which millions of ballots would have to be returned in a very short period of time was brave to start with, expecting Royal Mail to play along was simply risible and a non-starter. I've started to pay a bit more attention now that it may not be completely rigged after all, so I may yet end up writing a shamelessly biased run-down of the candidates at some point in the next few days.
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It would be appreciated I'm sure. I must admit I am fascinated by the unfolding of affairs abet from a position of much ignorance.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on May 15, 2020 22:21:39 GMT
Kidawa-Blonska, having become a stock joke, has now been forced to step down as PO's candidate for President in a humiliating press conference. (The exit she'd earned, frankly, we all know this and the attempts from PiS politicians and Polish Left Twitter to pretend otherwise are blatantly opportunistic.) Seeing as I haven't been paying attention to this (until perhaps now), what did she do? |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 27, 2020 11:08:34 GMT
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Post by johng on Jun 27, 2020 11:35:17 GMT
Last minute intervention by Walesa. Will it hold much sway though? I'm not sure how popular he still is.
The opposition's best hope is that they get Duda below 50% so there'll be a run-off. The polls show Duda on between 40 and 45% so it should happen.
Then there's big momentum behind Trzaskowski before the run-off. How likely are Holownia voters to get behind him? And how likely are Konfederacja voters to get behind Duda?
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Post by johng on Jun 28, 2020 17:43:18 GMT
Today is election day. Turnout looks like it is up quite a lot at between 10 and 15% on the last election which is a very healthy sign - and probably means a second round in very likely as third party voters haven't stayed at home. From what I have seen on Twitter, we can expect exit polls to come out when the vote closes at 8.30pm UK time.
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Post by robert1 on Jun 28, 2020 17:50:11 GMT
As with France, can I ask if anyone knows whether there is any variation in normal electoral law/processes because of the pandemic?
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Post by johng on Jun 28, 2020 18:20:53 GMT
The election was delayed from the 10th of May. There was a pretense by the government that it was going to go ahead in the days before May 10th and was cancelled very last minute. The speaker of their parliament's lower house declared the new dates. There's some argument whether this election is constitutional or not.
Good news for the opposition:
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 28, 2020 18:35:08 GMT
Today is election day. Turnout looks like it is up quite a lot at between 10 and 15% on the last election which is a very healthy sign - and probably means a second round in very likely as third party voters haven't stayed at home. From what I have seen on Twitter, we can expect exit polls to come out when the vote closes at 8.30pm UK time. Turnout is up all over Poland but particularly in the North West which is has relatively weak support for Duba. |
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jun 28, 2020 19:12:19 GMT
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Post by johng on Jun 28, 2020 19:12:52 GMT
Exit poll from Ipsos. Fairly similar to the opinion polls over the last few weeks. Run-off election is on July 12th.
On these figures, it isn't looking particularly certain for Duda. Unless there's a major change in the next two weeks, the run-off is going to be close to 50-50. Based on turnout patterns today, turnout will benefit the opposition rather than him.
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