New Zealand General Election 2020

[pragmaticidealist]

Amusingly, Collins scores 14.6% as preferred PM, which the highest for any opposition leader during this Parliament.

[piperdave]

Jul 26, 2020 14:02:44 GMT jamie said:

NewsHub poll:

Labour - 61%
National - 25%
Green - 6%
ACT - 3%
NZ First - 2%

There’s got to be a turnaround at some point, right...?

At some point, sure. In the next 8 weeks? It'd be a helluva campaign to make up that gap.

[piperdave]

A One News Colmar Brunton poll puts the race on a better footing for National, although Labour still comfortably ahead.

53% Labour
32% National
5% ACT
5% Green
2% NZ First
1% Maori
1% New Conservative

Jacinda is the preferred PM and more trusted party leader by a mile.

[pragmaticidealist]

Jul 30, 2020 12:31:43 GMT piperdave said:

A One News Colmar Brunton poll puts the race on a better footing for National, although Labour still comfortably ahead.

53% Labour
32% National
5% ACT
5% Green
2% NZ First
1% Maori
1% New Conservative

Jacinda is the preferred PM and more trusted party leader by a mile.

Their previous had it at 50-38, so not exactly good for National.

[timrollpickering]

Interesting that ACT has had an upswing - a destination for unhappy National voters?

And could we at last see the end of Winston Peters and His Ego?

[timmullen1]

Jul 30, 2020 14:33:02 GMT timrollpickering said:

Interesting that ACT has had an upswing - a destination for unhappy National voters?

And could we at last see the end of Winston Peters and His Ego?

I think there’s been an expectation we’d seen the end of Winston, indeed according to a columnist on The Poll Bludger he’s told his caucus he doesn’t intend to take his seat even if they got the 5%, however they are throwing the kitchen sink at winning an electorate with their Deputy Leader, apparently much more right-of-centre than Winston to keep the Party alive.

[cogload]

Winston is out and looking forward to his superannuation.

The ACT vote is on the rise due to the shooting fraternity who think Crusher is too soft. The Nats main policy announcement so far is to announce lots and lots of roads. So many in fact you could make a fortune as contractor.

Labour need the Greens over the 5% mark as a blanket and now they don't have to pat the warhorse on the head I wonder if they can afford to throw the Greens an electorate bone?

[pragmaticidealist]

My impression is that Peters is essentially the modern day Robert Muldoon. ACT (although they seem to focus more on their liberal social policies) is the modern day Roger Douglas.

[piperdave]

Aug 8, 2020 13:27:18 GMT cogload said:

Labour need the Greens over the 5% mark as a blanket and now they don't have to pat the warhorse on the head I wonder if they can afford to throw the Greens an electorate bone?

I think I read that the Greens were agitating for a free run at Auckland Central with Chloe Swarbrick but Labour didn't seem to be biting. Having had a quick flick around the electorates last time round, Nelson was the Green's best performance but when you compare it with the list vote, it looks like the candidate was very much the X factor. Wellington Central was next best.

[jamie]

If I was Labour I would on balance want the Greens to make the threshold as it would make a non-Labour government less likely. However, it also makes the chance of a majority Labour government less likely so is not without cost.

[pragmaticidealist]

Peters has called for the election to be postponed.

I know this is an outlandish tinfoil hat theory, but NZF's dire poll numbers may form some part of his motivation.

[The Bishop]

Collins got there first, I am sure her motivation was totally selfless as well.

[finsobruce]

Aug 16, 2020 9:17:37 GMT pragmaticidealist said:

Peters has called for the election to be postponed.

I know this is an outlandish tinfoil hat theory, but NZF's dire poll numbers may form some part of his motivation.

Ooh, you cynic.

[Andrew_S]

The New Zealand election has indeed been delayed.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53796434

[Devil Wincarnate]

Aug 16, 2020 22:33:53 GMT Andrew_S said:

The New Zealand election has indeed been delayed.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53796434

Winston wins again.

[Andrew_S]

[curiousliberal]

Aug 17, 2020 18:37:10 GMT Andrew_S said:

Guido fails to understand the differences between parliamentary and presidential systems.

[timmullen1]

Aug 17, 2020 18:39:07 GMT curiousliberal said:

Aug 17, 2020 18:37:10 GMT Andrew_S said:

Guido fails to understand the differences between parliamentary and presidential systems.

And that Trump proposed a delay to a date unspecified whereas Ardern gave an alternative date from the get-go and stressed there would be no delay beyond the alternative date.

[independentukip]

Aug 17, 2020 18:39:07 GMT curiousliberal said:

Aug 17, 2020 18:37:10 GMT Andrew_S said:

Guido fails to understand the differences between parliamentary and presidential systems.

A parliamentary system which had no role & wasn't even sitting when the Dear Leader of the regime 'delayed' the election. Sounds rather like a presidential act.

[independentukip]

Aug 17, 2020 19:20:56 GMT timmullen1 said:

Aug 17, 2020 18:39:07 GMT curiousliberal said:

Guido fails to understand the differences between parliamentary and presidential systems.

And that Trump proposed a delay to a date unspecified whereas Ardern gave an alternative date from the get-go and stressed there would be no delay beyond the alternative date.

I will be astonished if Ardern doesn't 'delay' the election again. More Covid cases, more deaths, much more unemployment, misery, suicide, anger and suppression of freedom & humanity are all guaranteed between now and the supposed new date.