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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 21, 2020 9:12:31 GMT
Another poll, from 1 News Colmar Brunton:
Lab 59
Nat 29
Green 4.7
NZF 2.9
ACT 2.2
Maori 1.2
TOP 0.9
Labour up 18, National down 17 compared to the previous poll.
Prefered Prime Minister:
Ardern 63
Bridges 5
Personal approval ratings:
Ardern 86/10 (!)
Bridges 22/63
If replicated exactly in an election then Labour would have 79 seats, National 38 and ACT 3.
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Post by The Bishop on May 21, 2020 10:38:45 GMT
The striking thing is that whilst some on the right are indeed saying such things, the left overwhelmingly seems to be happy with Ardern as well.
Almost this country in the mid 90s vibes here.
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Post by jamie on May 21, 2020 11:56:10 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 21, 2020 12:41:58 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia. A common belief on the NZ right: |
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Post by finsobruce on May 21, 2020 15:30:17 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia. A common belief on the NZ right: An election they won. The music is from Khachaturian's "Sabre Dance", which is fair enough as the composer was although Armenian, a pretty much paid up Soviet, being among other things, the head of the composer's 'Union" for a long time. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 21, 2020 20:26:11 GMT
I think this is the first forum poll I've ever seen where support for the main centre right party is higher, and for the centre left party lower, than in the country under discussion.
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Post by mboy on May 21, 2020 21:00:11 GMT
New Zealand at present is the only place I would consider to vote for the Centre-Left. Her handling of Covid, less Woke then other Centre-Left parties and tough on immigration would make this election a tough choice. Decent market for grown-up centre-left party that isnt silly Woke and is sane in immigration. There being no liberal party in NZ I’d prob vote for Labour there. Would consider ACT but they’re anti-science. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 22, 2020 8:30:47 GMT
Todd Muller has replaced Simon Bridges as National leader.
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on May 25, 2020 21:21:23 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia. A common belief on the NZ right: Of course, given the government they elected following that ad, the message might as well as have been "National will do all that too, but worse". |
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Post by piperdave on May 26, 2020 22:51:56 GMT
A common belief on the NZ right: Of course, given the government they elected following that ad, the message might as well as have been "National will do all that too, but worse". There may well be valid arguments against introducing a state pension scheme (which I think is what this is) but that wasn't one of them. Anyway, for those who want to delve into New Zealand's political past, I can highly recommmend this series of longform interviews with five former Kiwi Prime Ministers courtesy of Radio NZ. The Ninth Floor |
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Post by manchesterman on May 27, 2020 18:03:53 GMT
*sigh* if only we had a leader like her!
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Post by Sibboleth on May 27, 2020 19:02:09 GMT
Are we entirely O.K?
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Post by Andrew_S on May 27, 2020 19:05:00 GMT
Voters in the Anglophone countries don't usually remove a government after one term unless they've made really big mistakes, so I'd expect the NZ government to be re-elected this year.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 3, 2020 11:39:05 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia. Well they're not wrong are they. In order to create regnum hominis, You have to make all self-proclaimed partes Dei totally equal and turn mankind into some kind of perpetuum mobile, soulless animals/machines. AnthropoTheism is inevitably the Road to communistic serfdom (cf. both BACONs, HOBBES, HEGEL, FICHTE, MARX aso.). |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 9, 2020 21:00:23 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Jun 22, 2020 20:14:49 GMT
Although it should be said that the New Zealand right seem to think that Ardern is turning their country into Soviet Russia. Well they're not wrong are they. The 2017 New Zealand election is the best argument ever for First Past the Post No it is not and in any case the FPTP element in New Zealand elections is significant; there are 71 SMCs and only 49 PR list seats in the New Zealand Parliament. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 14, 2020 3:52:06 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 14, 2020 12:35:24 GMT
Even if genuinely for health reasons (and tbf it seems that it may be) that is still pretty hilarious, and surely can't do the NP much good.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jul 14, 2020 13:10:13 GMT
Maybe it's a case of not wanting to be the captain of the Titanic?
Anyhow, they've chosen perhaps a Michael Howard type figure (if they are lucky) as his replacement - Judith Collins.
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Post by pl on Jul 14, 2020 13:28:37 GMT
The article quotes [NZ first leader and deputy PM] Winston Peters "Todd never had a chance, given the fault lines of ambition, personality and ideology that run deep through the National Party Caucus," Mr Peters said in a statement. "National has demonstrated to voters as clearly as it is able that it cannot govern itself." Ermmm.... Hang on... isn't this the same Winston Peters who used to be a member of the National Party, was considered to be a rebel, was derided as being media hungry and then founded his own party. It's a bit rich of him! |
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