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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 28, 2024 20:14:24 GMT
I was working in Austria last week, and there was a lot of poster action going on.
But what threw me were radio adverts for political parties. I don't believe I've ever heard such a thing before. Lots of radio adverts for the Greens.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2024 21:43:09 GMT
I was working in Austria last week, and there was a lot of poster action going on. But what threw me were radio adverts for political parties. I don't believe I've ever heard such a thing before. Lots of radio adverts for the Greens. Austrian parties are everywhere. Radio has even been declining due to Social Media (where FPÖ is partly incredibly far ahead).
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2024 21:50:22 GMT
I was working in Austria last week, and there was a lot of poster action going on. But what threw me were radio adverts for political parties. I don't believe I've ever heard such a thing before. Lots of radio adverts for the Greens. Yes, also lots of good, old posters. Though generally the campaigns had not the nastiness (as against Kurz 2017&2019). NoBody standing out this time (apart from Mr. Kickl, of course). And an awful awareness to not come out with any unpopular policies. (In the Politics-thread i brought the all together more or less ridiculous proPosals for taxes/ecoNomy.) Top issue were suspected coalitions - and here the voters did not get any hint, as allWays... Or did You get another imPression?
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2024 22:17:21 GMT
3 weeks before the election it could be, that the course is turning from a "triel" into a duel: Being received as the main antiKickl-force is quasi a selfRunner and might even result in the first place (although few voters are polled to remain undecided). Would be hilarious, if ÖVP's risky strategy succeeded (as it has already in Tyrol, LowerAustria & Salzburg): For years having copied FPÖ, while at the same time campaigning as "the mid between extremes" (when being itself dedicated to an extreme opportunism...), while attacking then only Kickl (when the self-declared MARXism of SPÖ's Babler gets sidelined...), while proclaiming a duel for first place (when this is of no real importance...) and all this seems to work - what would once more prove, that "The world wants to be cheated on!" Before the EuropeanElection in June i had been - as written here now and again - sceptical, that ÖVP's risky strategy could work also federally (so inclusive Red Vienna); but then they ended 3-4% higher than polled (and just 0.9% behind FPÖ). Afterwards they began to climb, so they could have passed FPÖ in the end - according to the pollsters! I remain not sure, though, that their strategy will really succeed: 1 pollster said, that he has added 3-4% to them since June and since he is no outLier, it could be, that all pollsters did so and an ÖVP-surge has realiter never happened. So ÖVP is the Black Box. (Black is anyWay their colour...)
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Post by swanarcadian on Sept 28, 2024 22:25:20 GMT
What hours are the polling stations open tomorrow in Austria? And how quickly can we expect the results?
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Post by swanarcadian on Sept 28, 2024 23:44:27 GMT
A news report of the FPO’s final election rally which was met with opposition protestors.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 29, 2024 1:27:58 GMT
What hours are the polling stations open tomorrow in Austria? And how quickly can we expect the results? AFAIK they open early but close early too. An exit poll is expected as soon as 16:00 BST. Smaller actual results begin to trickle in almost immediately but those from the major cities tend to take a few more hours.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 1:58:24 GMT
What hours are the polling stations open tomorrow in Austria? And how quickly can we expect the results? AFAIK they open early but close early too. An exit poll is expected as soon as 16:00 BST. Smaller actual results begin to trickle in almost immediately but those from the major cities tend to take a few more hours. Yes, at 16:00 BST close the precincts in the cities and officially only then numbers get released and institute "Foresight" (exSORA) will make after ~10 minutes its first proJection at public broadCaster ORF. Small hint: At private channel Servus TV (owned by RedBull, HQs few hundred metres from my parents' home; in former elections they had a liveStream on YouTube, perhaps also tomorrow?) pollster OGM will come out with an opinionPoll, partly conducted in recent days, partly on electionDay (officially without taking leaked numbers into acCount) already at 15:00 BST. And ÖVP&Greens was at least able to improve the countingProcess: As in June, 80% of the PostalVotes will be counted toDay (most of the rest on MonDay, very few on ThursDay).
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 3:31:44 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 3:49:45 GMT
A news report of the FPO’s final election rally which was met with opposition protestors. FPÖ's "first win in a national election" is wrong since June, of course. The woMan's claim, that "Kickl speaks a language i can understand" can be misleading: In verity Kickl - who didn't finish his studies - is - different to Nehammer (let alone Babler), who did finish theirs - very intelligent. (Although he mentioned once LEIBNIZ, KANT, HEGEL as his preferred philoSophers and i cannot see, what they had in common apart from their german motherLanguage. Even worse, Kickl is said to be a specialist for theosophical HEGEL. Worst for my taste was, that he placarded "Your will be done", so exactly stressing, why i as a religious person cannot take part in elections.) Having to hide his intelligence in front of the populace is probably also the main reason, that Kickl has made as few appearances in public as possible.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 29, 2024 7:45:28 GMT
I was working in Austria last week, and there was a lot of poster action going on. But what threw me were radio adverts for political parties. I don't believe I've ever heard such a thing before. Lots of radio adverts for the Greens. Yes, also lots of good, old posters. Though generally the campaigns had not the nastiness (as against Kurz 2017&2019). NoBody standing out this time (apart from Mr. Kickl, of course). And an awful awareness to not come out with any unpopular policies. (In the Politics-thread i brought the all together more or less ridiculous proPosals for taxes/ecoNomy.) Top issue were suspected coalitions - and here the voters did not get any hint, as allWays... Or did You get another imPression? I was struck by the blandness of the posters. There were lots of them, but little on them other than pictures of the party leaders.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 29, 2024 10:41:26 GMT
I was working in Austria last week, and there was a lot of poster action going on. But what threw me were radio adverts for political parties. I don't believe I've ever heard such a thing before. Lots of radio adverts for the Greens. Maybe not adverts as such, but I'm pretty sure we had radio-only PPBs/PEBs in this country until at least the 1980s and possibly later.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 14:34:55 GMT
AFAIK they open early but close early too. An exit poll is expected as soon as 16:00 BST. Smaller actual results begin to trickle in almost immediately but those from the major cities tend to take a few more hours. Small hint: At private channel Servus TV (owned by RedBull, HQs few hundred metres from my parents' home; in former elections they had a liveStream on YouTube, perhaps also tomorrow?) pollster OGM will come out with an opinionPoll, partly conducted in recent days, partly on electionDay (officially without taking leaked numbers into acCount) already at 15:00 BST. According to them similar to the opinionPolls, MoE 2.8%: 27.5% FPÖ 25.5% ÖVP 21.0% SPÖ 09.5% Greens 09.5% NEOS 02.5% KPÖ 02.5% Beer 00.5% LMP 00.5% None
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Post by carolus on Sept 29, 2024 15:03:00 GMT
I had a postal vote - the pack included three different booklets of ever increasing length, giving all the candidate details you might require to make your choices: academic achievement, age, employment, post code.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 15:08:10 GMT
ProJection based on 30% by ForeSight (moE 2%):
29.1% FPÖ 26.2% ÖVP 20.4% SPÖ 08.8% NEOS 08.6% Greens
02.9% KPÖ 02.1% Beer 00.6% None 00.5% LMP 00.6% others
78% TurnOut
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 15:09:16 GMT
I had a postal vote - the pack included three different booklets of ever increasing length, giving all the candidate details you might require to make your choices: academic achievement, age, employment, post code. Ah, You are <also> an Austria???
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 15:14:31 GMT
ArGe Wahlen at Puls 24:
29.2% FPÖ 25.4% ÖVP 20.0% SPÖ 09.8% NEOS 08.9% Greens
02.5% Beer 02.4% KPÖ
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 15:19:56 GMT
Once again ForeSight: And then OGM:
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Post by swanarcadian on Sept 29, 2024 15:33:23 GMT
Pretty much as expected so far.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 29, 2024 15:36:19 GMT
ÖVP&SPÖ are presently slightly below the 92 seats required.
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