Local Council By-elections 21st November 2019.

[Toylyyev]

Transfers for the Aberdeen Torry/Ferryhill ward:

                         I      II      III       IV       V        VI

Audrey Nicoll  SNP     1618    2  4%    4  4%   49 15%  146 34%  170 32% 1989
  Neil Murray  C        972   11 21%   13 15%   49 15%   38  9%   68 13% 1151
Willie Young   Lab      395    1  2%    6  7%   60 19%   71 17%  533
 Betty Lyon    Green    304   16 30%   27 30%   82 25%  429
Gregor McAbery LibDem   315    2  4%    7  8%  324
 Simon McLean  Ind       86    3  6%   89 
   Roy Hill    UKIP      53
not transferable              18 34%   32 36%   84 26%  174 41%  295 55%  603

www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2019-11/Transfers%20Report%20Torry-Ferryhill%20Ward%2021112019.pdf

Transfers for the Moray Keith and Cullen ward:

                           I      II      III

Laura Powell     C       1142   35 17%  162 38% 1339
 Jock McKay      SNP     1047   30 14%  107 25% 1184
  Rob Barsby     Ind      349   81 38%  430
  Ian Aitchinson LibDem   212
not transferable                66 31%  161 37%  227

www.moray.gov.uk/downloads/file128958.pdf

[The Bishop]

Nov 22, 2019 23:17:08 GMT mike said:

Nov 22, 2019 13:23:34 GMT The Bishop said:

At least I'm not pretending to be "non-aligned".....

So for stating the obvious I must be a closet Tory?

Ok Bishop I'll do your spin for you.

Labour vote up in Lancashire and no loss of vote share in Chichester and Moray. Jez on course to be PM by Christmas just like he told us at Glastonbury.

If you're not a partisan Tory, you're an oddball.

Which do you prefer?

[finsobruce]

Nov 23, 2019 10:34:32 GMT The Bishop said:

Nov 22, 2019 23:17:08 GMT mike said:

So for stating the obvious I must be a closet Tory?

Ok Bishop I'll do your spin for you.

Labour vote up in Lancashire and no loss of vote share in Chichester and Moray. Jez on course to be PM by Christmas just like he told us at Glastonbury.

If you're not a partisan Tory, you're an oddball.

Which do you prefer?

Well that deteriorated quickly.

[The Bishop]

Their posts have just a slightly "stalky" quality IMO.

[Tony Otim]

Nov 23, 2019 5:21:30 GMT Toylyyev said:

Transfers for the Aberdeen Torry/Ferryhill ward:

                         I      II      III       IV       V        VI

Audrey Nicoll  SNP     1618    2  4%    4  4%   49 15%  146 34%  170 32% 1989
  Neil Murray  C        972   11 21%   13 15%   49 15%   38  9%   68 13% 1151
Willie Young   Lab      395    1  2%    6  7%   60 19%   71 17%  533
 Betty Lyon    Green    304   16 30%   27 30%   82 25%  429
Gregor McAbery LibDem   315    2  4%    7  8%  324
 Simon McLean  Ind       86    3  6%   89 
   Roy Hill    UKIP      53
not transferable              18 34%   32 36%   84 26%  174 41%  295 55%  603

www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2019-11/Transfers%20Report%20Torry-Ferryhill%20Ward%2021112019.pdf

Transfers for the Moray Keith and Cullen ward:

                           I      II      III

Laura Powell     C       1142   35 17%  162 38% 1339
 Jock McKay      SNP     1047   30 14%  107 25% 1184
  Rob Barsby     Ind      349   81 38%  430
  Ian Aitchinson LibDem   212
not transferable                66 31%  161 37%  227

www.moray.gov.uk/downloads/file128958.pdf

Lib Dems were surprisingly transfer un-friendly in Aberdeen. Can't be too many times UKIP transfers break in favour of the Greens...

[yellowperil]

Nov 23, 2019 12:40:06 GMT Tony Otim said:

Nov 23, 2019 5:21:30 GMT Toylyyev said:

Transfers for the Aberdeen Torry/Ferryhill ward:

                         I      II      III       IV       V        VI

Audrey Nicoll  SNP     1618    2  4%    4  4%   49 15%  146 34%  170 32% 1989
  Neil Murray  C        972   11 21%   13 15%   49 15%   38  9%   68 13% 1151
Willie Young   Lab      395    1  2%    6  7%   60 19%   71 17%  533
 Betty Lyon    Green    304   16 30%   27 30%   82 25%  429
Gregor McAbery LibDem   315    2  4%    7  8%  324
 Simon McLean  Ind       86    3  6%   89 
   Roy Hill    UKIP      53
not transferable              18 34%   32 36%   84 26%  174 41%  295 55%  603

www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2019-11/Transfers%20Report%20Torry-Ferryhill%20Ward%2021112019.pdf

Transfers for the Moray Keith and Cullen ward:

                           I      II      III

Laura Powell     C       1142   35 17%  162 38% 1339
 Jock McKay      SNP     1047   30 14%  107 25% 1184
  Rob Barsby     Ind      349   81 38%  430
  Ian Aitchinson LibDem   212
not transferable                66 31%  161 37%  227

www.moray.gov.uk/downloads/file128958.pdf

Lib Dems were surprisingly transfer un-friendly in Aberdeen. Can't be too many times UKIP transfers break in favour of the Greens...

16 votes ( out of 53 potential) is hardly that significant, is it? Surprising, even so.

[yellowperil]

Nov 23, 2019 10:34:32 GMT The Bishop said:

Nov 22, 2019 23:17:08 GMT mike said:

So for stating the obvious I must be a closet Tory?

Ok Bishop I'll do your spin for you.

Labour vote up in Lancashire and no loss of vote share in Chichester and Moray. Jez on course to be PM by Christmas just like he told us at Glastonbury.

If you're not a partisan Tory, you're an oddball.

Which do you prefer?

Why do they have to be alternatives? Quite possibly both ( there are plenty on here already who qualify on both counts )

[Toylyyev]

Nov 23, 2019 13:22:36 GMT yellowperil said:

Nov 23, 2019 12:40:06 GMT Tony Otim said:

Lib Dems were surprisingly transfer un-friendly in Aberdeen. Can't be too many times UKIP transfers break in favour of the Greens...

16 votes ( out of 53 potential) is hardly that significant, is it? Surprising, even so.

The Indy has a similar transfer pattern, and it kind of makes sense to me after eating my homework.

www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/1621866/meet-the-driving-force-behind-the-go-green-torry-zero-waste-cafe/
www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/aberdeen-zero-waste-cafe-marks-year-of-success/

[yellowperil]

Nov 23, 2019 15:03:11 GMT Toylyyev said:

Nov 23, 2019 13:22:36 GMT yellowperil said:

16 votes ( out of 53 potential) is hardly that significant, is it? Surprising, even so.

The Indy has a similar transfer pattern, and it kind of makes sense to me after eating my homework.

www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/1621866/meet-the-driving-force-behind-the-go-green-torry-zero-waste-cafe/
www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/aberdeen-zero-waste-cafe-marks-year-of-success/

Good for her. Unless of course she was feeding her opponents.

[mike]

Nov 23, 2019 10:34:32 GMT The Bishop said:

Nov 22, 2019 23:17:08 GMT mike said:

So for stating the obvious I must be a closet Tory?

Ok Bishop I'll do your spin for you.

Labour vote up in Lancashire and no loss of vote share in Chichester and Moray. Jez on course to be PM by Christmas just like he told us at Glastonbury.

If you're not a partisan Tory, you're an oddball.

Which do you prefer?

A bit of teasing for over-spinning turns to insults. I am going to vote for Donna Jones as the least worst option but that doesn't make me a partisan Tory or an oddball. So to answer your closed question, its neither. I'm heading over to the polls section now to amuse myself at your likely spin to tonight's 19 point Tory lead.

[wallington]

Nov 23, 2019 12:40:06 GMT Tony Otim said:

Nov 23, 2019 5:21:30 GMT Toylyyev said:

Transfers for the Aberdeen Torry/Ferryhill ward:

                         I      II      III       IV       V        VI

Audrey Nicoll  SNP     1618    2  4%    4  4%   49 15%  146 34%  170 32% 1989
  Neil Murray  C        972   11 21%   13 15%   49 15%   38  9%   68 13% 1151
Willie Young   Lab      395    1  2%    6  7%   60 19%   71 17%  533
 Betty Lyon    Green    304   16 30%   27 30%   82 25%  429
Gregor McAbery LibDem   315    2  4%    7  8%  324
 Simon McLean  Ind       86    3  6%   89 
   Roy Hill    UKIP      53
not transferable              18 34%   32 36%   84 26%  174 41%  295 55%  603

www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2019-11/Transfers%20Report%20Torry-Ferryhill%20Ward%2021112019.pdf

Transfers for the Moray Keith and Cullen ward:

                           I      II      III

Laura Powell     C       1142   35 17%  162 38% 1339
 Jock McKay      SNP     1047   30 14%  107 25% 1184
  Rob Barsby     Ind      349   81 38%  430
  Ian Aitchinson LibDem   212
not transferable                66 31%  161 37%  227

www.moray.gov.uk/downloads/file128958.pdf

Lib Dems were surprisingly transfer un-friendly in Aberdeen. Can't be too many times UKIP transfers break in favour of the Greens...

None of the main parties vote? Never be surprised how minor party vote breaks. I canvassed at least four voters who were UKIP/Green in in Norwich South at the 2010 GE.

[greenchristian]

Nov 25, 2019 18:06:41 GMT wallington said:

Nov 23, 2019 12:40:06 GMT Tony Otim said:

Lib Dems were surprisingly transfer un-friendly in Aberdeen. Can't be too many times UKIP transfers break in favour of the Greens...

None of the main parties vote? Never be surprised how minor party vote breaks. I canvassed at least four voters who were UKIP/Green in in Norwich South at the 2010 GE.

Ah yes, the classic anti-establishment voter. Couldn't care less about policy, just wants to stick it to the man.

[peterl]

There are some perhaps overlooked similarities in UKIP and Green outlook however, mainly in terms of prefering decisions to be made locally, a belief that there is currently a democratic deficit that requires some kind of reform to put right, and soft environmentalism of a "keep the countryside nice and plant trees" variety.

[greenchristian]

Nov 25, 2019 21:17:53 GMT peterl said:

There are some perhaps overlooked similarities in UKIP and Green outlook however, mainly in terms of prefering decisions to be made locally, a belief that there is currently a democratic deficit that requires some kind of reform to put right, and soft environmentalism of a "keep the countryside nice and plant trees" variety.

There's frequently a lot of overlap in terms of local issues as well.

[peterl]

Save the Greenbelt is I would think an issue many people in both parties could get behind for one.