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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 22, 2019 12:48:18 GMT
Conservatives win in Keith and Cullen. First preferences Conservatives - 1339 (42.3%) SNP - 1184 (37.4%) Ind - 430 (13.6%) LD - 212 (6.7%) In contrast to Aberdeen, I make that a 5.9% swing to the Tories. Very good result for them, with slight caveat that the strong vote for the outgoing Indy should add some caution in interpreting. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 12:48:21 GMT
Conservatives win in Keith and Cullen. First preferences Conservatives - 1339 (42.3%) SNP - 1184 (37.4%) Ind - 430 (13.6%) LD - 212 (6.7%) Now that's more like it, cracking result  |
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Post by robbienicoll on Nov 22, 2019 12:49:45 GMT
Figures are unfortunately incorrect as Moray Council have added the transfers onto the final count sheet giving 415 votes over the total. Conservatives have won though.
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Post by pl on Nov 22, 2019 12:56:15 GMT
Labour now have a majority of just one on the council. |
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2019 12:56:57 GMT
So this week sees 3 Conservative gains from Labour, LibDem and Independent. One each in England, Scotland and Wales. The Scottish win was in a ward that the SNP previously came top in.
Thats a good week for them whatever way anyone tries to spin it.
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Post by robbienicoll on Nov 22, 2019 12:58:50 GMT
Corrected first preferences Conservatives - 1142 (41.5%) SNP - 1047 (38.1%) Ind - 349 (12.7%) LD - 212 (7.7%) |
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2019 13:00:48 GMT
It could also be argued that one of the Conservative holds, the West Sussex one, was from the Brexit Party as the previous councillor had defected to them before resigning.
It's a week that the Conservatives really socked it to all the other parties.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 22, 2019 13:08:40 GMT
Labour now have a majority of just one on the council. Going back a few years now, most byelections in Cardiff seem to have been caused by Labour resignations - is anything going on there locally? |
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Post by cogload on Nov 22, 2019 13:08:50 GMT
It could also be argued that one of the Conservative holds, the West Sussex one, was from the Brexit Party as the previous councillor had defected to them before resigning. It's a week that the Conservatives really socked it to all the other parties. 🙄🙄 |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 22, 2019 13:11:18 GMT
It could also be argued that one of the Conservative holds, the West Sussex one, was from the Brexit Party as the previous councillor had defected to them before resigning. It's a week that the Conservatives really socked it to all the other parties. And this is an entirely balanced and objective take and not at all the "spin" that you decried in your previous post. No sirree  |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 22, 2019 13:20:21 GMT
It could also be argued that one of the Conservative holds, the West Sussex one, was from the Brexit Party as the previous councillor had defected to them before resigning. It's a week that the Conservatives really socked it to all the other parties. And this is an entirely balanced and objective take and not at all the "spin" that you decried in your previous post. No sirree I think balance is something we have to kiss goodbye to for the duration unfortunately.
We may have an award for most balanced prediction/post during the campaign. |
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2019 13:21:04 GMT
It could also be argued that one of the Conservative holds, the West Sussex one, was from the Brexit Party as the previous councillor had defected to them before resigning. It's a week that the Conservatives really socked it to all the other parties. And this is an entirely balanced and objective take and not at all the "spin" that you decried in your previous post. No sirree Reading your posts on elections and polls, you do come across as this site's Labour spin doctor. I look forward to reading your spin on this week's Labour byelection performance. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 22, 2019 13:23:34 GMT
At least I'm not pretending to be "non-aligned".....
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 22, 2019 13:28:11 GMT
is anything going on there locally? . Actually this is a reasonable performance for Labour given how far Bale ran ahead of the other Labour candidates in the ward. |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 22, 2019 13:37:16 GMT
Whilst we await the full numbers, it’s looking like a pretty good week for the Tories It would have been a major setback for them *not* to have won in Cardiff given the previous result there, though the Chichester result was undeniably good - and perhaps suggests their "traditional" vote rallying to them with a GE due. As already said, there was a decent swing against them to the Nats in Aberdeen. Now we know the other results, it is a good week for them. 3 or 4 gains ( depending on how you treat Bourne). As you say, given they held the other 3 seats, they should have gained Cardiff, although the benchmark for that result was a previous contest in May 2017, which of course was a good set of elections for the Conservatives. Labour can be pleased to have held Skelmersdale with an increased share against the Independent group. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 14:40:24 GMT
Corrected first preferences Conservatives - 1142 (41.5%) SNP - 1047 (38.1%) Ind - 349 (12.7%) LD - 212 (7.7%) I make that: CON +8.8% SNP -1.6% IND -14.92% LDEM (New) |
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 22, 2019 14:46:46 GMT
If the party stops lying I will stop drawing attention to it. Odd, I didn't see you complaining about the Conservative Party pretending its twitter account was a fact-checking service, or that said party has been releasing doctored videos to deliberately misrepresent the views of other parties. They've released a fake Labour manifesto (on an accompanying website) now. I should qualify this, though: they've now added a sub-title 'website by the Conservative Party' to clarify it's a fake (not sure this was initially the case). |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 22, 2019 15:04:53 GMT
I make that: CON +8.8% SNP -1.6% IND -14.92% LDEM (New) Just a fun wee exercise. If you distributed all Ron Shepherds votes last time to their second preference a discount the non-transferable, the result would have been: SNP 43.6 CON 38.1 Barsby 18.3, So changes from there (as a way of accounting for the independent's vote): Con +3.4 SNP -5.5 IND -5.6 LD +7.7 Still a very good result for the Conservatives. |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 22, 2019 16:00:53 GMT
is anything going on there locally? . Actually this is a reasonable performance for Labour given how far Bale ran ahead of the other Labour candidates in the ward. Russell Goodwage leaves a long legacy. I must admit I thought it wasn’t that bad a result for Labour in that Ward. |
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2019 23:17:08 GMT
At least I'm not pretending to be "non-aligned"..... So for stating the obvious I must be a closet Tory? Ok Bishop I'll do your spin for you. Labour vote up in Lancashire and no loss of vote share in Chichester and Moray. Jez on course to be PM by Christmas just like he told us at Glastonbury. |
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