neilm
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Post by neilm on Oct 28, 2019 14:28:50 GMT
Keith Vaz's behaviour as the washing machine salesman might lead to a recall petition. Didn't he get reselected last week?
I doubt a petition would be successful.
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 28, 2019 15:16:59 GMT
Even if a petition succeeded he would win the subsequent by election so long as he was the Labour candidate.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 28, 2019 21:01:35 GMT
To be honest, the grounds for the sanction are so stupid it should be voted down. Or "six" should be amended to "five" for troll value.
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 1, 2019 14:36:25 GMT
A letter has been written to the next leader of the House of Commons requesting (not mandatory IIRC? Davıd Boothroyd would know) that any time of Vaz' suspension left unspent at dissolution be carried over to the next session should he be elected in it. Assuming it was five months plus, wouldn't this trigger a recall petition again?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 1, 2019 14:48:01 GMT
The wording of the law leaves a bit of ambiguity. Section 1(4) of the Recall of MPs Act 2015 provides that a recall petition is invoked when, "following on from a report from the Committee on Standards in relation to the MP, the House of Commons orders the suspension of the MP from the service of the House for a specified period of the requisite length". In the event Keith Vaz is elected to the new Parliament, and is then suspended, the suspension would be longer than the threshold for invoking a recall petition. But it could be argued that the first suspension was following the Committee on Standards report, and the second was just a spontanous suspension because the first had ended. Still strongly suspect this is an academic question.
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Post by connor on Oct 13, 2021 16:18:55 GMT
First Vaz, now Webbe.
I swear, is this seat cursed or something?
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 13, 2021 16:20:24 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 13, 2021 16:32:42 GMT
Speculation online that if George Galloway were to stand it would "cost Labour the seat".
That's an interesting way to spell "cost him his deposit".
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Post by Strontium Dog on Oct 13, 2021 16:44:23 GMT
Kinder, gentler politics strikes again.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2021 16:44:34 GMT
Speculation online that if George Galloway were to stand it would "cost Labour the seat". That's an interesting way to spell "cost him his deposit". The seat is more the 20% Muslim.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 13, 2021 16:48:17 GMT
Can't stand Galloway, but would love him to stand in a watch the world burn sort of way. He's rather entertaining.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2021 16:52:21 GMT
Can't stand Galloway, but would love him to stand in a watch the world burn sort of way. He's rather entertaining. George Galloway VS Keith Vaz would be like watching the Hunger games in real life.
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 13, 2021 16:54:15 GMT
It would be a major surprise if Galloway didn't stand if there is a by-election here.
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 13, 2021 16:55:22 GMT
Webbe is appealing and says "I want to assure the people of Leicester East that I will continue to stand up for them in Parliament, fighting on their behalf."
At what point could recall proceedings begin if she fights it?
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 13, 2021 16:57:30 GMT
First Vaz, now Webbe. I swear, is this seat cursed or something? Peter Bruinvels wasn't everyone's cup of tea either, famously volunteering to personally act as executioner in the event of a return of capital punishment. The MP before him Peter Bradley probably annoyed a lot of Labour supporters by defecting to the SDP. You have to go back to Terence Donovan to find an MP for the seat who wasn't controversial in some way.
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 13, 2021 17:16:25 GMT
I think I'll panic-buy some popcorn for this one.
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ricmk
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Post by ricmk on Oct 13, 2021 17:17:11 GMT
Webbe is appealing and says "I want to assure the people of Leicester East that I will continue to stand up for them in Parliament, fighting on their behalf." At what point could recall proceedings begin if she fights it? Only once appeal process had been exhausted. The formal process is triggered by an announcement from the Speaker in the HOC, and the Speaker will only do so once satisfied that the legal processes have concluded.
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Post by greenhert on Oct 13, 2021 17:32:00 GMT
First Vaz, now Webbe. I swear, is this seat cursed or something? Peter Bruinvels wasn't everyone's cup of tea either, famously volunteering to personally act as executioner in the event of a return of capital punishment. The MP before him Peter Bradley probably annoyed a lot of Labour supporters by defecting to the SDP. You have to go back to Terence Donovan to find an MP for the seat who wasn't controversial in some way. Tom Bradley. Peter Bradley was Labour MP for The Wrekin, in Shropshire!
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2021 17:33:51 GMT
The seat is more the 20% Muslim. does that alter public attitudes to threatening to throw acid in a girl's face? I was reacting to “cost him his deposit”
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Post by greenhert on Oct 13, 2021 17:34:50 GMT
Furthermore the presiding magistrate warned Ms Webbe she could face a prison sentence-such an event would of course trigger the Recall of MPs Act 2015, and given the controversy over her initial selection a hypothetical recall petition would have no problem reaching the threshold for success.
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