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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 27, 2019 15:08:35 GMT
I have only just seen the correspondence following my initial post - at least you didnt have to wait 7 years. Have to say that i am not certain why the Carlton guy thought it was intrusive and aggressive? Intrusion? Do I need to pass through some kind of masonic ritual to be allowed to post or is this site open to all? What was aggressive? Sounds like he needs to stock up on chill pills before brexit kicks in. If you stick around you will grow accustomed to carlton43 style. His bark is worse than his bite in most cases. He likes to be teased occasionally, for he is a fruity fellow full of the last of the summer wine and a strong love of mature old England  
He doesn't much like socialists or communists, but that's ok because we live in a democracy not a one party state (yet).
Which hasn't stopped him spending much of his recent life elsewhere ... |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 27, 2019 15:10:06 GMT
I have only just seen the correspondence following my initial post - at least you didnt have to wait 7 years. Have to say that i am not certain why the Carlton guy thought it was intrusive and aggressive? Intrusion? Do I need to pass through some kind of masonic ritual to be allowed to post or is this site open to all? What was aggressive? Sounds like he needs to stock up on chill pills before brexit kicks in. I really don't think I'm going to like him. I'm sure he'll cope somehow. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 15:35:55 GMT
If this is meant to be a thread about local by-election sit has sadly deteriorated. Where are the % changes in the votes in the by-elections on Thursday? Why are we being treated to the personal philosophy of some grumpy old Tory? Why are we not having a discussion about the Gloucester results which in current circumstances are actually quite interesting? (Labour losing a seat and coming fourth??? What is that all about?) Nothing is stopping anyone having a discussion. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 27, 2019 16:16:11 GMT
If this is meant to be a thread about local by-election sit has sadly deteriorated. Where are the % changes in the votes in the by-elections on Thursday? Why are we being treated to the personal philosophy of some grumpy old Tory? Why are we not having a discussion about the Gloucester results which in current circumstances are actually quite interesting? (Labour losing a seat and coming fourth??? What is that all about?) Nothing is stopping anyone having a discussion. I would say not, given there is already 10 pages of discussion on 3 small by elections (not all of them on theme , admittedly, but that's par for the course) . There are probably two reasons for keeping off % changes in votes: 1. We are missing middleenglander and his trusty computer 2. We are avoiding mention of different interpretations of sw*ng. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 16:20:24 GMT
Nothing is stopping anyone having a discussion. I would say not, given there is already 10 pages of discussion on 3 small by elections (not all of them on theme , admittedly, but that's par for the course) . There are probably two reasons for keeping off % changes in votes: 1. We are missing middleenglander and his trusty computer 2. We are avoiding mention of different interpretations of sw*ng. Oh, I agree with that, but his lordship seemed to be implying there was a news blackout. |
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 27, 2019 17:11:56 GMT
I would say not, given there is already 10 pages of discussion on 3 small by elections (not all of them on theme , admittedly, but that's par for the course) . There are probably two reasons for keeping off % changes in votes: 1. We are missing middleenglander and his trusty computer 2. We are avoiding mention of different interpretations of sw*ng. Oh, I agree with that, but his lordship seemed to be implying there was a news blackout. I thought I made quite a reasoned post on the by-elections but it is so far back now I can't find it. |
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 27, 2019 17:13:14 GMT
Well, that was a really bad result in Podsmead for Labour. Down 34% and lib dems 30% from nowhere. A smaller swing from Con to BXP stopped them gaining. Andrew said this ward is largely council estate as i recall. Probably most of this was normal Lib Dem pavement politics in a place where that was a pleasant surprise to the electorate. However the current chaos in the Labour Party cannot help and if i were a Labour supporter I would really be thinking Corbyn is a liability now. Lib Dem vote up 16% in Barnswood. Good result but very predictable given the polls and the Euros. Happy to see the Greens increase their vote and beat the far right in Hartlepool. Probably the only part of the result with any significance outside Hartlepool. Boost! (I found it!) |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 27, 2019 17:21:06 GMT
Well, that was a really bad result in Podsmead for Labour. Down 34% and lib dems 30% from nowhere. A smaller swing from Con to BXP stopped them gaining. Andrew said this ward is largely council estate as i recall. Probably most of this was normal Lib Dem pavement politics in a place where that was a pleasant surprise to the electorate. However the current chaos in the Labour Party cannot help and if i were a Labour supporter I would really be thinking Corbyn is a liability now. Lib Dem vote up 16% in Barnswood. Good result but very predictable given the polls and the Euros. Happy to see the Greens increase their vote and beat the far right in Hartlepool. Probably the only part of the result with any significance outside Hartlepool. Boost! (I found it!) Yes, good - I went looking for it and found it at the same moment! And I would agree with all of that. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 27, 2019 17:27:05 GMT
Where was this 15% in *Gloucester* then?? I hope the rest of his "analysis" is more accurate than that. Presumably a slip for Hartlepool. Who can tell the difference between Gloucester and Hartlepool? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 27, 2019 19:58:02 GMT
Argh! He's got the aspect ratio wrong. It should be 4x3 not 3x4. Teletext pixels are supposed to be displayed scaled to 1.2x1.0 to give a virtual display of 576x500 fitting within the safe zone of a 4x3 display. link |
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Post by tonygreaves on Jul 27, 2019 20:43:49 GMT
I was commenting on what people were commenting about, not complaining about the admin!
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 2, 2019 11:23:06 GMT
I have my computer back but much catching up to do. Gloucester, Barnwood - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative| Party | 2019 votes | 2019 share | since 2016 "top" | since 2016 "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 676 | 46.5% | +15.1% | +14.9% | Conservative | 496 | 36.1% | -6.0% | -4.3% | Brexit | 152 | 10.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 64 | 4.4% | -6.9% | -7.2% | Green | 59 | 4.1% | -1.3% | -1.7% | UKIP | 6 | 0.4% | -11.2% | -12.1% | Total votes | 1,453 |
| 67% | 72% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat 10½% / 9½% since 2016 Council now 20 Conservative, 9 Labour, 9 Liberal Democrat, 1 suspended Conservative Gloucester, Podsmead - Liberal Democrat gain from Labour
| Party | 2019 votes | 2019 share | since 2016 | | Liberal Democrat | 203 | 30.0% | from nowhere | Conservative | 200 | 29.6% | -18.5% | Labour | 122 | 18.0% | -33.9% | Brexit | 111 | 16.4% | from nowhere | Green | 29 | 4.3% | from nowhere | UKIP | 11 | 1.6% | from nowhere | Total votes | 676 |
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Swing not meaningful Council now 20 Conservative, 9 Labour, 9 Liberal Democrat, 1 suspended Conservative Hartlepool, Hart - Labour hold
| Party | 2019 B votes | 2019 B share | since 2019 | since 2018 B | since 2018 | since 2016 | since 2015 | | Labour | 366 | 30.5% | -2.3% | -9.7% | -8.3% | +1.3% | +2.9% | Independent Union | 358 | 29.8% | -37.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 196 | 16.3% | from nowhere | +14.5% | from nowhere | +12.7% | from nowhere | For Britain Movement | 166 | 13.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP | 114 | 9.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | -17.7% | -13.3% | Elected Independents |
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| -18.3% | Total votes | 1,200 |
| 61% | 83% | 68% | 62% | 28% |
Swing Independent Union to Labour ~ 17½% since May
Council now 10 Labour, 8 Independent Union, 4 Socialist Labour, 3 Conservative, 3 Putting Seaton First, 2 Independent, 1 For Britain, 1 UKIP, 1 Veterans & People
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