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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 8:03:16 GMT
It's weird how there can be a swing from LD to Con but apparently no such thing ever as one the other way. You have no sense of humour do you? You must need one pretty badly if you can turn a declining vote share in lost deposit territory into something to crow about. Ho Ho, as you say, ho. |
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 30, 2019 8:10:48 GMT
It's weird how there can be a swing from LD to Con but apparently no such thing ever as one the other way. You have no sense of humour do you? On the contrary. I've been laughing ever since I read your post. Nothing new there. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 8:29:31 GMT
Electorate 17,810 Verified votes 11,835 Turnout 66.5% which is an increase on the last general election.  This is a fascinating document. Given the quite high postal votes, I wonder whether the rather low percentages for votes by person in some of the more difficult to reach places and some of the outer isles means that they have above average postal votes? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 8:29:50 GMT
The Duke of Bavaria, who isn't interested. It is also about the merge with the Liechtenstein prince family. Indeed. The present Head of the House is childless, and on his death the Stuart claim will pass to his younger brother, and thence to the latter's daughter Sophie, who is married to the eldest son and heir of the reigning Prince of Liechtenstein. In 1917 the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha sought to anglicise itself by adopting the name "House of Windsor". If some unimaginable twist of fate places Princess Sophie of Bavaria or her son Prince Joseph Wenzel on the British throne, perhaps the family could rename itself the "House of Leytonstone".  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 8:32:27 GMT
You have no sense of humour do you? You must need one pretty badly if you can turn a declining vote share in lost deposit territory into something to crow about. Ho Ho, as you say, ho. We were already in deposit losing territory in this seat. Our vote share declined by a tiny amount and we were never remotely in competition here. We might as well have a laugh about it. Why is it that Lib Dems are so humourless? |
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 30, 2019 8:37:57 GMT
On the contrary. I've been laughing ever since I read your post. Nothing new there. Are you sure you are non-aligned? You look like, sound like and SMELL like a LD. You're such a wag. It's like being at a Ken Dodd gig when you post. Hours and hours of one punchline after another. Are you sure you're a Conservative? You look, sound and SMELL like a LD who is playing the part of a rancid Tory in order to discredit them. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 30, 2019 8:39:58 GMT
This is a fascinating document. Given the quite high postal votes, I wonder whether the rather low percentages for votes by person in some of the more difficult to reach places and some of the outer isles means that they have above average postal votes? As I understand things, residents of the outlying islands in Shetland and other areas all agree to vote by post, so the council doesn't have to provide polling stations on tiny islands and the number of ballot boxes which need to be brought to the count is minimised. It took only two hours from the close of poll to get the last ballot box in, which is quite good for such a long distance. Google gives the travel time between Haroldswick, Unst to Lerwick as two and a half hours but I don't imagine it has good lighting after dark. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 8:40:05 GMT
You must need one pretty badly if you can turn a declining vote share in lost deposit territory into something to crow about. Ho Ho, as you say, ho. We were already in deposit losing territory in this seat. Our vote share declined by a tiny amount and we were never remotely in competition here. We might as well have a laugh about it. Why is it that Lib Dems are so humourless? No,actually I find that quite hilarious. You must need to keep your spirits up in your now leaderless and totally irrelevant party. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 8:44:01 GMT
Perhaps the "badinage" on this thread is getting a bit out of hand...?
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 8:48:36 GMT
This is a fascinating document. Given the quite high postal votes, I wonder whether the rather low percentages for votes by person in some of the more difficult to reach places and some of the outer isles means that they have above average postal votes? As I understand things, residents of the outlying islands in Shetland and other areas all agree to vote by post, so the council doesn't have to provide polling stations on tiny islands and the number of ballot boxes which need to be brought to the count is minimised. It took only two hours from the close of poll to get the last ballot box in, which is quite good for such a long distance. Google gives the travel time between Haroldswick, Unst to Lerwick as two and a half hours but I don't imagine it has good lighting after dark. Thanks. More or less exactly as I surmised. However there still seems to be polling stations on a lot of those remote places and the vote by person figures are only a bit lower than elsewhere, so they must still have to get ballot boxes from the outer islands back to Lerwick. I think they do pretty well to get a result out as quickly as they do. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 8:49:50 GMT
Perhaps the "badinage" on this thread is getting a bit out of hand...? okay, truce? |
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 30, 2019 8:54:33 GMT
Are you sure you are non-aligned? You look like, sound like and SMELL like a LD. You're such a wag. It's like being at a Ken Dodd gig when you post. Hours and hours of one punchline after another. Are you sure you're a Conservative? You look, sound and SMELL like a LD who is playing the part of a rancid Tory in order to discredit them. As @goodoldcause wisely observes above, this thread is getting overwrought and with comments tending to the febrile. There are high emotions and I am a participant in all that sometimes and on a limited nuber of threads, but I do try to leaven it with humour, puns, badinage and a lot of sober posts on other cultural matters. I would just observe that you do not appear to do any of that? You just 'sit on the wires' like a crow looking for carrion to pick over. You troll many of us, not just me, in the hope of causing trouble and ratching it up notch by notch. You add nothing and take away much. I promise not to reply or interact with you at all from now on any thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 8:57:11 GMT
We were already in deposit losing territory in this seat. Our vote share declined by a tiny amount and we were never remotely in competition here. We might as well have a laugh about it. Why is it that Lib Dems are so humourless? No,actually I find that quite hilarious. You must need to keep your spirits up in your now leaderless and totally irrelevant party. Deary me, have I touched a raw nerve? |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Aug 30, 2019 9:14:11 GMT
I would think the SNP would be disappointed not to get near the 38% they got in the Westminster seat in 2015 (I dont know how the votes divide between Orkney and Shetland, but some vague memory tells me Shetland is generally worse for Carmichael?) Carmichael is Orkney based, so you are most likely correct. I don't know what the source was, (do they have separate counts for Orkney and Shetland in Westminster elections?) but I've always understood that Carmichael lost in Shetland in 2015 but was saved by a solid vote in Orkney. I don't know if that holds true for 2017 when there was a swing back to LD from SNP, it would be interesting to know. In 2015 the SNP candidate who achieved a notable jump in their vote was Danus Skene who I gather was quite a prominent figure in Shetland (and AFAICT was politically essentially a Liberal and indeed LD but who believed in Scottish independence) but who sadly died in 2016 - one imagines he may have had a personal vote in Shetland. |
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Post by owainsutton on Aug 30, 2019 9:39:54 GMT
This is a fascinating document. Given the quite high postal votes, I wonder whether the rather low percentages for votes by person in some of the more difficult to reach places and some of the outer isles means that they have above average postal votes? As I understand things, residents of the outlying islands in Shetland and other areas all agree to vote by post, so the council doesn't have to provide polling stations on tiny islands and the number of ballot boxes which need to be brought to the count is minimised. It took only two hours from the close of poll to get the last ballot box in, which is quite good for such a long distance. Google gives the travel time between Haroldswick, Unst to Lerwick as two and a half hours but I don't imagine it has good lighting after dark. This cropped up somewhere far back in this thread: even when postal voting was highly restricted, that a voter would otherwise be required to travel across open water was a reason to be entitled to one. So it's not that there's an agreement to vote by post, but that there's no obligation to provide polling stations on all islands. However, I still wonder what provisions are in place if an election takes place in the depths of winter, when the Foula ferry (and therefore its postal service) can be prevented from operating for weeks at a time. |
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 30, 2019 9:42:58 GMT
We were already in deposit losing territory in this seat. Our vote share declined by a tiny amount and we were never remotely in competition here. We might as well have a laugh about it. Why is it that Lib Dems are so humourless? No,actually I find that quite hilarious. You must need to keep your spirits up in your now leaderless and totally irrelevant party. Errrr! Ahhhh!! How many seats do you have in Scotland? And how many in England? And you think WE are irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 30, 2019 9:46:26 GMT
As I understand things, residents of the outlying islands in Shetland and other areas all agree to vote by post, so the council doesn't have to provide polling stations on tiny islands and the number of ballot boxes which need to be brought to the count is minimised. It took only two hours from the close of poll to get the last ballot box in, which is quite good for such a long distance. Google gives the travel time between Haroldswick, Unst to Lerwick as two and a half hours but I don't imagine it has good lighting after dark. This cropped up somewhere far back in this thread: even when postal voting was highly restricted, that a voter would otherwise be required to travel across open water was a reason to be entitled to one. So it's not that there's an agreement to vote by post, but that there's no obligation to provide polling stations on all islands. However, I still wonder what provisions are in place if an election takes place in the depths of winter, when the Foula ferry (and therefore its postal service) can be prevented from operating for weeks at a time. I think it’s the opening montage of the BBC’s February 1974 election programme that says a Royal Navy helicopter was to fly the ballot boxes from the Scilly Isles to mainland Cornwall, but had been grounded until the Friday morning; might Orkney and Shetland use similar transportation in inclement weather? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 30, 2019 9:49:05 GMT
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 30, 2019 9:50:15 GMT
You're such a wag. It's like being at a Ken Dodd gig when you post. Hours and hours of one punchline after another. Are you sure you're a Conservative? You look, sound and SMELL like a LD who is playing the part of a rancid Tory in order to discredit them. As @goodoldcause wisely observes above, this thread is getting overwrought and with comments tending to the febrile. There are high emotions and I am a participant in all that sometimes and on a limited nuber of threads, but I do try to leaven it with humour, puns, badinage and a lot of sober posts on other cultural matters. I would just observe that you do not appear to do any of that? You just 'sit on the wires' like a crow looking for carrion to pick over. You troll many of us, not just me, in the hope of causing trouble and ratching it up notch by notch. You add nothing and take away much. I promise not to reply or interact with you at all from now on any thread. And I promise not to tell anyone that we are one and the same person. Keep up the good work. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 30, 2019 9:59:53 GMT
No,actually I find that quite hilarious. You must need to keep your spirits up in your now leaderless and totally irrelevant party. Errrr! Ahhhh!! How many seats do you have in Scotland? And how many in England? And you think WE are irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, come on, where's your sense of humour now?And I was of course referring to the Scottish party. Nothing funny at all about the English one. |
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