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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 30, 2019 1:47:29 GMT
Beatrice Wishart (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 5,659 (47.9%, -19.2)
Tom Wills (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 3,822 (32.3%, +9.4)
Ryan Thomson (Independent) 1,286 (10.9%)
Brydon Goodlad (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 425 (3.6%, -0.1)
Debra Nicolson (Scottish Green Party) 189 (1.6%)
Johan Adamson (Scottish Labour/Co-operative Party) 152 (1.3%, -4.6)
Michael Stout (Independent) 134 (1.1%)
Ian Scott(no desc) 66 (0.6%)
Stuart Martin (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 60 (0.5%)
Peter Tait Independent 31 (0.3%)
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Post by johnloony on Aug 30, 2019 1:50:25 GMT
LD 5,659
SNP 3,822
Thomson 1,286
Conservative 425
Green 189
Labour 152
Stout 134
Scott 66
UKIP 60
Tait 31
Edit: corrected from 1,266 to 1,286
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Post by johnloony on Aug 30, 2019 1:52:48 GMT
The clearest and most obvious message from this result is that it is a solid endorsement of Boris Johnson's Brexit policy, and a firm rejection of Jeremy Corbyn. A massive swing of +2.2%.
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 30, 2019 1:53:08 GMT
That's an excellent showing from Thomson, though of course he is a councillor and independents tend to do well in Shetland. His campaign seemed to focus heavily on the ferry issues, at least that's the impression from his final pitch in the Shetland Times.
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Post by cogload on Aug 30, 2019 1:54:12 GMT
That will do.
Considering the kitchen sink which was thrown by the SNP at the seat that is pretty good. We got the vote out.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 30, 2019 1:55:42 GMT
Beatrice Wishart (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 5,659 (47.9%, -19.2) Tom Wills (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 3,822 (32.3%, +9.4) Ryan Thomson (Independent) 1,286 (10.9%) Brydon Goodlad (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 425 (3.6%, -0.1) Debra Nicolson (Scottish Green Party) 189 (1.6%) Johan Adamson (Scottish Labour/Co-operative Party) 152 (1.3%, -4.6) Michael Stout (Independent) 134 (1.1%) Ian Scott(no desc) 66 (0.6%) Stuart Martin (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 60 (0.5%) Peter Tait Independent 31 (0.3%) This source has 1,266. Was your figure of 1,286 from the audio of the abovementioned radio? www.shetnews.co.uk/2019/08/29/by-election-2019-count/Edit: Shetland Council tweet confirms it as 1,286 |
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 30, 2019 2:03:45 GMT
Shetland says a firm no to Scottish independence.
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Post by ricmk on Aug 30, 2019 2:08:26 GMT
The clearest and most obvious message from this result is that it is a solid endorsement of Boris Johnson's Brexit policy, and a firm rejection of Jeremy Corbyn. A massive swing of +2.2%. Has there ever been a parliamentary election/by-election where both the Tories and Labour lose their deposit, as I think they have done here? A quick google suggests that there are deposits for MSP elections, might be wrong at this time of night. good result for the Lib Dems I'd say - there were suggestions it could be a lot tighter than that. |
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Post by syorkssocialist on Aug 30, 2019 2:10:21 GMT
The clearest and most obvious message from this result is that it is a solid endorsement of Boris Johnson's Brexit policy, and a firm rejection of Jeremy Corbyn. A massive swing of +2.2%. Has there ever been a parliamentary election/by-election where both the Tories and Labour lose their deposit, as I think they have done here? A quick google suggests that there are deposits for MSP elections, might be wrong at this time of night. good result for the Lib Dems I'd say - there were suggestions it could be a lot tighter than that. Orkney, 2016. |
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Post by cogload on Aug 30, 2019 2:23:43 GMT
Ryan's vote would have come from the Northern Isles of Unst and Yell (he is a Baltasound lad) so that is a big chunk of ex Scott voters who moved. Wills is based in Lerwick so I would imagine the northen Lerwick boxes would have come in for him whilst Wishart would have won the south. Talk at the count was that the town was evenly split.
The Scott family are based on Bressay so if previous voting patterns are followed that would have supplied a decent chunk for the LD's.
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 30, 2019 2:26:28 GMT
Ryan's vote would have come from the Northern Isles of Unst and Yell (he is a Baltasound lad) so that is a big chunk of ex Scott voters who moved. Wills is based in Lerwick so I would imagine the northen Lerwick boxes would have come in for him whilst Wishart would have won the south. Talk at the count was that the town was evenly split. The Scott family are based on Bressay so if previous voting patterns are followed that would have supplied a decent chunk for the LD's. Crikey - is the vote likely to have been that (for want of a better word) parochial? I know the area where candidates are based can have an impact, but that much? Am I just being an out of touch city dweller here? |
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Post by cogload on Aug 30, 2019 2:41:59 GMT
Yes.
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 30, 2019 5:35:15 GMT
That will do. Considering the kitchen sink which was thrown by the SNP at the seat that is pretty good. We got the vote out. I I am getting an ad for a walk-in bathroom immediately under this mention of the kitchen sink! I think the Lib Dems may be throwing the walk-in bathroom at Hallam... |
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 30, 2019 6:00:14 GMT
Is Tom Wills related to the Labour candidate who came second in 1999? (apologies if mentioned up thread)
In terms of the result I note Tavish Scott got a similar % when challenged by an Indy in 2011, so this seems a decent performance for a new candidate with an Indy getting 11%.
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 30, 2019 7:06:23 GMT
Beatrice Wishart (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 5,659 (47.9%, -19.2) Tom Wills (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 3,822 (32.3%, +9.4) Ryan Thomson (Independent) 1,286 (10.9%) Brydon Goodlad (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 425 (3.6%, -0.1) Debra Nicolson (Scottish Green Party) 189 (1.6%) Johan Adamson (Scottish Labour/Co-operative Party) 152 (1.3%, -4.6) Michael Stout (Independent) 134 (1.1%) Ian Scott(no desc) 66 (0.6%) Stuart Martin (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 60 (0.5%) Peter Tait Independent 31 (0.3%) So 'swing' here is a similar 9.6% BUT from LD to Conservative! Ho! Ho! Ho! |
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Post by mboy on Aug 30, 2019 7:13:40 GMT
Decent result in the end. The independent did more damage than the huge SNP effort. A good shake up for Lib Dems on the island. Surgeon's claim that this is now a top target is laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 7:23:21 GMT
At least our vote held up well......
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 30, 2019 7:28:49 GMT
Decent result in the end. The independent did more damage than the huge SNP effort. A good shake up for Lib Dems on the island. Surgeon's claim that this is now a top target is laughable. I would think the SNP would be disappointed not to get near the 38% they got in the Westminster seat in 2015 (I dont know how the votes divide between Orkney and Shetland, but some vague memory tells me Shetland is generally worse for Carmichael?) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 7:45:43 GMT
Decent result in the end. The independent did more damage than the huge SNP effort. A good shake up for Lib Dems on the island. Surgeon's claim that this is now a top target is laughable. I would think the SNP would be disappointed not to get near the 38% they got in the Westminster seat in 2015 (I dont know how the votes divide between Orkney and Shetland, but some vague memory tells me Shetland is generally worse for Carmichael?) Carmichael is Orkney based, so you are most likely correct. |
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 30, 2019 7:52:36 GMT
Beatrice Wishart (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 5,659 (47.9%, -19.2) Tom Wills (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 3,822 (32.3%, +9.4) Ryan Thomson (Independent) 1,286 (10.9%) Brydon Goodlad (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 425 (3.6%, -0.1) Debra Nicolson (Scottish Green Party) 189 (1.6%) Johan Adamson (Scottish Labour/Co-operative Party) 152 (1.3%, -4.6) Michael Stout (Independent) 134 (1.1%) Ian Scott(no desc) 66 (0.6%) Stuart Martin (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 60 (0.5%) Peter Tait Independent 31 (0.3%) So 'swing' here is a similar 9.6% BUT from LD to Conservative! Ho! Ho! Ho! It's weird how there can be a swing from LD to Con but apparently no such thing ever as one the other way. |
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