cogload
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Post by cogload on May 27, 2019 9:04:00 GMT
Snap elections called after Tsipras and Syrzia got a kicking in the Euros last night.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on May 27, 2019 9:15:44 GMT
Though it was actually less bad than polls had generally predicted, which may be a factor behind this decision?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 27, 2019 10:30:49 GMT
Though it was actually less bad than polls had generally predicted, which may be a factor behind this decision? I think another factor in this is that the departure of the Independent Greeks (ANEL) leaves him friendless and struggling to govern. He only survived in January because some ANEL members defied party orders and backed him. I suspect Syriza will run on a "who governs?" message with a heavy emphasis on a binary struggle with ND. Interestingly, recent polling shows a fair few of the minor parties getting kicked out. It could be just ND, Syriza, Golden Dawn, KINAL and KKE. It might be that neither ND nor Syriza can cobble something together, and Tsipras holds on with heavy concessions. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 27, 2019 15:37:55 GMT
As far as i remember SYRIZA did only minimally better than in OpinionPolls.
But at the EP-election the left parties received nontheless a majority of votes - enough, when squeezed, that Tsipras could reach the relative majority.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 5, 2019 23:32:07 GMT
In the regional&local elections ND has done - to noone's surprise - very well: Won all regions less leftwing Crete (a cons.Ind. was elected in NorthernAegeis); what means, that they gained Attica from SYRIZA (and the IonianIslands).
Athens fell to ND (but incl. POTAMI), Thessaloniki to another cons.Indep., Piraeus to PASOK's new vehicle, Patras once again to KKE, Larissa to SYRIZA.
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Post by cogload on Jun 8, 2019 17:22:50 GMT
There is on YouTube a delightful cabride on the Peloponnese from Piraeus to Corinth. A 3ft6 ramshackle railway clinging to the slopes. Helpfully for the local thieves the Greek railways just closed it and left everything in situ.
Now mostly superseded.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 11:41:54 GMT
Anyone following this? Seems to have been a quiet campaign.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 2, 2019 12:17:49 GMT
Anyone following this? Seems to have been a quiet campaign. I didn't even know it was happening until just now when I went onto Ladbrokes politics to check some of the odds for various leadership elections and saw the odds for this election (1/33 for New Democracy to win most seats btw) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 2, 2019 12:20:23 GMT
Another Mitsotakis - they do like their political dynasties in Greece don't they
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Post by greenhert on Jul 2, 2019 13:09:50 GMT
Another Mitsotakis - they do like their political dynasties in Greece don't they They do indeed. And the Mitsotakises are linked to famous 20th century Greek statesman Eleftherios Venizelos. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 13:39:22 GMT
Another Mitsotakis - they do like their political dynasties in Greece don't they They do indeed. And the Mitsotakises are linked to famous 20th century Greek statesman Eleftherios Venizelos. I didn't know that. You learn something new every day! |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 13:40:41 GMT
Another Mitsotakis - they do like their political dynasties in Greece don't they If ever there was a country run entirely on the principle of "jobs for the boys", it's Greece. In every possible sphere of activity. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 13:41:31 GMT
Varoufakis is literally begging for votes, claiming that if his gang don't make it into parliament, ND will have untrammeled power.
It'd take a heart of stone not to laugh.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 2, 2019 13:43:01 GMT
They do indeed. And the Mitsotakises are linked to famous 20th century Greek statesman Eleftherios Venizelos. I didn't know that. You learn something new every day! I also only learned that today, but not from greenhert |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 2, 2019 16:51:00 GMT
They do indeed. And the Mitsotakises are linked to famous 20th century Greek statesman Eleftherios Venizelos. I didn't know that. You learn something new every day! Not only did I not know that, it has caused me to check out Evangelos Venizelos of PASOK and find, contrary to my assumption, that he isn't. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 16:56:29 GMT
I didn't know that. You learn something new every day! Not only did I not know that, it has caused me to check out Evangelos Venizelos of PASOK and find, contrary to my assumption, that he isn't. It amazes me that "Venizelism" still rears its head in Greece. A mindset that led to the murder and deportation of thousands of Greeks. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 2, 2019 17:24:04 GMT
I didn't know that. You learn something new every day! I also only learned that today, but not from greenhert I've just found out that the former foreign minister (and leader of her own failed party) Dora Bakoyannis is Mitsotakis's older sister. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2019 9:09:00 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 15:03:47 GMT
Left utopists being revealed as bourgeois ants as soon as they come into power - who would have thought so... |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 7, 2019 16:07:18 GMT
Unified exit poll:
ND 38-42
SYRIZA 26.5-30.5
KINAL 6-8
KKE 5-7
Golden Dawn 2.8-4.8
MeRA25 3-5
Ellniki Lysi 2.5-4.5
Union of Centrists and Sailing for Freedom >3
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