Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 16:28:25 GMT
Seats (ExitPoll):
155-167 ND
77-82 Syriza
19-22 Socialists
16-19 Kommunists
08-14 Varoufakis
00-13 NationalSocialists
00-13 Nationalists
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Jul 7, 2019 17:10:34 GMT
Varoufakis..by the laws of Zeus how the hell did that happen?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2019 18:01:29 GMT
Varoufakis..by the laws of Zeus how the hell did that happen? How people cannot see through this ludicrous self-publicist continues to astound me. Especially as his European "movement" is also riddled with some of the continent's biggest poseurs. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 18:20:12 GMT
Varoufakis..by the laws of Zeus how the hell did that happen? How people cannot see through this ludicrous self-publicist continues to astound me. Especially as his European "movement" is also riddled with some of the continent's biggest poseurs. Yes, that a specialist for theoretical economy is a doctrinaire full-idiot, is nothing new. (In Austria J.SCHUMPETER was in the 1920ies for few months FinanceMinister - after the first CabinetMeeting his dispaired "colleagues" were aware, that "the great economist" was totally incapable...) But that creature's cynical grinning was/is hard to endure. |
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2019 18:35:28 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 18:50:30 GMT
Thank You a lot for the numbers - i cannot see anything of the EC on my SmartPhone. The NewsPapers don't provide results on their own, only copying the EC (thus also not visible for me). TeleVision-channel "Alpha TV" lists all parties (incl. the Liberals at ~1.5%) - but not GoldenDawn! Summa summarum: grotesque. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 18:54:52 GMT
Some CentralEuropean politicians hope, that the ND-government will - after Greece has received billions from us - be willing to fulfill the Dublin-treaty and hold back the immigrants from Turkey in future. Unlikely to happen though.
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Post by andrea on Jul 7, 2019 19:07:57 GMT
Thank You a lot for the numbers - i cannot see anything of the EC on my SmartPhone. The NewsPapers don't provide results on their own, only copying the EC (thus also not visible for me). TeleVision-channel "Alpha TV" lists all parties (incl. the Liberals at ~1.5%) - but not GoldenDawn! Summa summarum: grotesque. 68% reported ND 39.62% - 158 seats Syrza 31.62% - 86 Socialists 7.98 - 22 Commies 5.36 - 15 EL 3.77 - 10 Varoufakis 3.47 - 9 Golden Down 2.97 - 0 |
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Merseymike
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 7, 2019 19:11:07 GMT
This rather odd system where the lead party gets another bloc of seats in addition to their proportional vote rather breeds corruption - which will no doubt bhe returned to with full gusto with one half of the old duopoly back in charge |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 19:19:10 GMT
Big victory for the left: After 4 years of bad governing they are nontheless ahead by 2% (48.5:46.5)!
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Post by Antiochian on Jul 7, 2019 19:22:06 GMT
Logic appears to be that you vote for EU-bootlickers then the EU gives you cash = wash & repeat...
Probably won't take long for this to fall apart...
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Post by greenhert on Jul 7, 2019 19:29:11 GMT
74% reporting:
ND 158
SYRIZA 86
KINAL 22
KKE 15
EL 10
MERA25 9
Others 0
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 7, 2019 19:36:35 GMT
Golden Shower on 2.96% when the threshold for seats is 3%. Where's the world's tiniest violin gone?
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Post by greenhert on Jul 7, 2019 19:45:16 GMT
Golden Shower on 2.96% when the threshold for seats is 3%. Where's the world's tiniest violin gone? A party narrowly missing the 3% threshold is a running gag in Greek elections. How does it happen so often even when it is a different party each time? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 7, 2019 20:16:26 GMT
This rather odd system where the lead party gets another bloc of seats in addition to their proportional vote rather breeds corruption - which will no doubt bhe returned to with full gusto with one half of the old duopoly back in charge A system pioneered by that paragon of good governance...sorry, pioneered by the Italian DC! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 7, 2019 20:19:22 GMT
Golden Shower on 2.96% when the threshold for seats is 3%. Where's the world's tiniest violin gone? But, but, the BBC tell us the far right are on the advance all across Europe ... |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 7, 2019 20:28:53 GMT
This rather odd system where the lead party gets another bloc of seats in addition to their proportional vote rather breeds corruption - which will no doubt bhe returned to with full gusto with one half of the old duopoly back in charge A system pioneered by that paragon of good governance...sorry, pioneered by the Italian DC! Although it never became real under DC. The 55%-rule was invented in the 1920-ies, i think? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 7, 2019 21:16:57 GMT
Golden Shower on 2.96% when the threshold for seats is 3%. Where's the world's tiniest violin gone? But, but, the BBC tell us the far right are on the advance all across Europe ... The BBC don't restrict their use of the description 'far right' to parties which actually are far right |
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Merseymike
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 7, 2019 21:43:58 GMT
I hope we can all agree that Golden Dawn fulfil that description
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 7, 2019 21:51:09 GMT
Yes of course they do. My point was that the allusion that Gwynne makes to the BBC obsessing about the rise of 'far right' parties in Europe is generally based on the (relative) electoral success of parties that are nothing of the kind (AfD, Lega, UKIP etc).
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