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Post by andrea on Jun 13, 2019 13:32:40 GMT
Labour candidate is Kim McGuinness, a cabinet member in Newcastle Does anyone know if she was selected by a members' ballot, or was she imposed? It seems like there wasn't much time for a selection process. I am pretty sure no One Member One Vote ballot. I guess she was picked by a NEC/Regional officers panel. But I may be wrong. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 13, 2019 14:14:10 GMT
Does anyone know if she was selected by a members' ballot, or was she imposed? It seems like there wasn't much time for a selection process. I am pretty sure no One Member One Vote ballot. I guess she was picked by a NEC/Regional officers panel. But I may be wrong. From memory that’s what happened in South Yorkshire when the incumbent was forced out over the Rotherham grooming, and after the death of the incumbent in West Midlands. |
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Post by polaris on Jun 13, 2019 14:39:03 GMT
I am pretty sure no One Member One Vote ballot. I guess she was picked by a NEC/Regional officers panel. But I may be wrong. From memory that’s what happened in South Yorkshire when the incumbent was forced out over the Rotherham grooming, and after the death of the incumbent in West Midlands. I must admit, I had entirely forgotten about the South Yorkshire PCC by-election. Someone on this thread mentioned that there had been two by-elections, and I was racking my brains trying to remember where the other one was. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 13, 2019 18:46:26 GMT
Labour candidate is Kim McGuinness, a cabinet member in Newcastle Any information on what makes her qualified with relations to police and crime? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 13, 2019 18:56:04 GMT
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 16, 2019 20:54:50 GMT
Lib Dem candidate will be announced tomorrow evening, I'm told.
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 18, 2019 6:37:24 GMT
It's Jonathan Wallace once more.
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Post by andrea on Jun 18, 2019 16:15:57 GMT
Northumberland County Councillor Robbie Moore for the Conservative party.
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 20, 2019 12:32:45 GMT
No word from the Brexit Party. Do they know there's a by-election on?
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 20, 2019 13:05:29 GMT
No word from the Brexit Party. Do they know there's a by-election on? More importantly and who will deliver the Bono line? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2019 13:16:06 GMT
No word from the Brexit Party. Do they know there's a by-election on? My view is that the Brexit Party should not currently be getting involved in these kind of elections, even local authority by-elections etc. Keep it single issue and national |
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 20, 2019 13:32:37 GMT
No word from the Brexit Party. Do they know there's a by-election on? My view is that the Brexit Party should not currently be getting involved in these kind of elections, even local authority by-elections etc. Keep it single issue and national Maybe that's the reason for no news. But neither of the BP MEPs lives in the Northumbria area - one's in France and the other in Hartlepool. So perhaps they don't read the Tyneside press. Or possibly getting 100 signatures is too much effort. Nominations close tomorrow, so there's still time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 14:59:33 GMT
Seems like missed opportunity to me given their decent score in this region in the euros. Are only three parties standing? Should shape up to be interesting for 2nd place and transfers
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Post by polaris on Jun 20, 2019 15:06:40 GMT
No word from the Brexit Party. Do they know there's a by-election on? My view is that the Brexit Party should not currently be getting involved in these kind of elections, even local authority by-elections etc. Keep it single issue and national That seems odd. The two-party system is crumbling before our eyes - there are great opportunities for the Brexit Party on the right, just as there are for the LibDems in the centre and the Greens on the left.
I don't think you can win significant numbers of parliamentary seats without having a significant presence in local government and other types of elections. I am assuming that you would want to break through at Westminster? If not, I am surprised by the lack of ambition.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2019 15:18:06 GMT
Well I have no say or influence and I'm not privy to the the thinking of those that do. I just think that at this stage of the game the party should be solely focussed on Brexit which does mean contesting parliamentary by-elections on that issue but once positions are taken on other issues then their is the potential for dissent in the ranks. This was the error that UKIP made at the crucial time, going off to start fighting other battles as if Brexit was won. There are certainly distinctive policy positions that a party aspiring to be a major force to the right of the Conservatives could take on law and order issues (as for example UKIP sought to do in the South Yorkshire PCC by-election) but I don't think its a time for that because it risks fracturing the coalition that has been put together (which after all includes Revolutionary Communists etc). I take the point about local government presence acting as a launching pad for success at Westminster elections but I'm not convinced that is a particularly relevant model for the Brexit party to follow. The Lib Dems have had some success with that approach but even for them it is limited (i've lived in a number of places where a strong local Lib Dem presence has not translated to national elections) and they are happy tp spend years banging on about pot-holes etc. It was always difficult to make the case that UKIP had anything specific to say about local government so you end up feigning interest in stuff that is frankly irrelevent to you or just admitting that you are a repository for protest votes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 15:23:03 GMT
My view is that the Brexit Party should not currently be getting involved in these kind of elections, even local authority by-elections etc. Keep it single issue and national That seems odd. The two-party system is crumbling before our eyes - there are great opportunities for the Brexit Party on the right, just as there are for the LibDems in the centre and the Greens on the left.
I don't think you can win significant numbers of parliamentary seats without having a significant presence in local government and other types of elections. I am assuming that you would want to break through at Westminster? If not, I am surprised by the lack of ambition.
tbf there might be some sense in not wasting resources in an expensive election nobody is going to vote in. If the Brexit Party did win they'd get some headlines but it would mean very little in helping the Brexit Party win seats in Westminster |
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 21, 2019 16:12:48 GMT
One additional candidate: Independent Northumberland Councillor Georgina Hill (Berwick East).
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Post by andrea on Jun 21, 2019 16:15:55 GMT
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 21, 2019 19:24:51 GMT
We need someone to stir up some apathy to get the turnout below 10%. Another nail in the coffin for elected Police Commissioners, one of the very worst ideas of the coalition.
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Post by neilm on Jun 22, 2019 10:26:07 GMT
We need someone to stir up some apathy to get the turnout below 10%. Another nail in the coffin for elected Police Commissioners, one of the very worst ideas of the coalition. The problem is the lack of real power- when localism was at it's height in the Conservatives (so about a fortnight) and this stuff came to the fore, I was salivating at the thought of firing chief constables, tackling scrotes properly and so on: actual operational control. Instead we got watered down admin jobs stuffed with time servers. Some long term posters may remember my enthusiasm for elected school boards- this is a long term thing for me- and I'm disappointed that police commissioners have worked out the way they have because it's stopped further development of this stuff in its tracks. |
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