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Post by Merseymike on Jun 22, 2019 10:40:23 GMT
We need someone to stir up some apathy to get the turnout below 10%. Another nail in the coffin for elected Police Commissioners, one of the very worst ideas of the coalition. The problem is the lack of real power- when localism was at it's height in the Conservatives (so about a fortnight) and this stuff came to the fore, I was salivating at the thought of firing chief constables, tackling scrotes properly and so on: actual operational control. Instead we got watered down admin jobs stuffed with time servers. Some long term posters may remember my enthusiasm for elected school boards- this is a long term thing for me- and I'm disappointed that police commissioners have worked out the way they have because it's stopped further development of this stuff in its tracks. And for that I breathe a sigh of relief.... |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 22, 2019 10:41:44 GMT
And the two non-metropolitan 'county mayors'. and the city region mayor In fact all so-called Mayors including the glorified transport commissiober in London Mayors do ceremonies and give money to charities. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 22, 2019 11:13:06 GMT
One additional candidate: Independent Northumberland Councillor Georgina Hill (Berwick East). Former press secretary for Conservative MP Anne-Marie Trevelyan. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 22, 2019 18:42:25 GMT
Labour doing a fair bit of campaigning including Angela Rayner door-knocking in my neighbouring village.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 23, 2019 9:04:56 GMT
Anybody else genuinely surprised the Brexit Party aren't having a go at this one?
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2019 9:27:53 GMT
Anybody else genuinely surprised the Brexit Party aren't having a go at this one? Hedging his bets there’s going to be a snap General Election and resources too stretched, especially with the contretemps with the Electoral Commission over their online fundraising? |
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 23, 2019 9:53:22 GMT
Anybody else genuinely surprised the Brexit Party aren't having a go at this one? Hedging his bets there’s going to be a snap General Election and resources too stretched, especially with the contretemps with the Electoral Commission over their online fundraising? The deposit of £5000 would be returned. The only other expense is paying for your share of the election booklet. The BP cannot be that short of money or of a candidate who would take the gamble his or her self. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2019 10:29:29 GMT
Hedging his bets there’s going to be a snap General Election and resources too stretched, especially with the contretemps with the Electoral Commission over their online fundraising? The deposit of £5000 would be returned. The only other expense is paying for your share of the election booklet. The BP cannot be that short of money or of a candidate who would take the gamble his or her self. Possibly, but then there’s the expense of regular visits from Mr Farage as I’m sure he doesn’t pay for the costs of his security entourage out of his own pocket. I also wonder whether they’ve figured there’s little to be gained - even a win is likely to be on such low turnout to open them up to the same accusations of no mandate that they accuse others, and the job’s so invisible it doesn’t bring the continuing publicity of having an MP. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2019 10:29:35 GMT
Hedging his bets there’s going to be a snap General Election and resources too stretched, especially with the contretemps with the Electoral Commission over their online fundraising? The deposit of £5000 would be returned. The only other expense is paying for your share of the election booklet. The BP cannot be that short of money or of a candidate who would take the gamble his or her self. Possibly, but then there’s the expense of regular visits from Mr Farage as I’m sure he doesn’t pay for the costs of his security entourage out of his own pocket. I also wonder whether they’ve figured there’s little to be gained - even a win is likely to be on such low turnout to open them up to the same accusations of no mandate that they accuse others, and the job’s so invisible it doesn’t bring the continuing publicity of having an MP. |
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 23, 2019 10:40:54 GMT
The deposit of £5000 would be returned. The only other expense is paying for your share of the election booklet. The BP cannot be that short of money or of a candidate who would take the gamble his or her self. Possibly, but then there’s the expense of regular visits from Mr Farage as I’m sure he doesn’t pay for the costs of his security entourage out of his own pocket. I also wonder whether they’ve figured there’s little to be gained - even a win is likely to be on such low turnout to open them up to the same accusations of no mandate that they accuse others, and the job’s so invisible it doesn’t bring the continuing publicity of having an MP. It's not all that invisible. Vera did appear regularly in the press. And one Tyneside MP is totally invisible. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 23, 2019 10:41:59 GMT
Possibly, but then there’s the expense of regular visits from Mr Farage as I’m sure he doesn’t pay for the costs of his security entourage out of his own pocket. I also wonder whether they’ve figured there’s little to be gained - even a win is likely to be on such low turnout to open them up to the same accusations of no mandate that they accuse others, and the job’s so invisible it doesn’t bring the continuing publicity of having an MP. It's no all that invisible. Vera did appear regularly in the press. And one Tyneside MP is totally invisible.Now that has got me thinking...... |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2019 10:49:24 GMT
Possibly, but then there’s the expense of regular visits from Mr Farage as I’m sure he doesn’t pay for the costs of his security entourage out of his own pocket. I also wonder whether they’ve figured there’s little to be gained - even a win is likely to be on such low turnout to open them up to the same accusations of no mandate that they accuse others, and the job’s so invisible it doesn’t bring the continuing publicity of having an MP. It's not all that invisible. Vera did appear regularly in the press. And one Tyneside MP is totally invisible. I was thinking nationally visible, that gets invitations on to Question Time kind of visible, not just interviews in local media. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 23, 2019 17:10:54 GMT
And one Tyneside MP is totally invisible. Which one? |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 24, 2019 4:26:48 GMT
It's no all that invisible. Vera did appear regularly in the press. And one Tyneside MP is totally invisible.Now that has got me thinking...... I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. |
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Post by neilm on Jun 24, 2019 4:52:51 GMT
Now that has got me thinking...... I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. I bet Merseymike loves her! |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 24, 2019 5:04:16 GMT
I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. I bet Merseymike loves her! I doubt that. She certainly doesn't love Mike. |
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Post by andrea on Jun 24, 2019 7:34:37 GMT
Glindon was selected because she was local. And that was basically her unique selling point. North Tyneside was made AWS ruling out John Harrison. A SpAd of EdM (Polly Billington) was the favourite from London. But the CLP insisted in wanting a local and well, Glindon was the one left. Shortlist was Mary, Polly, Arlene Ainsley, Leonie Cooper (now a Assembly Member in London) and Tracey Paul (who was a Labour North party official but already lost the Newcastle Central selection starting as early favourite).
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 24, 2019 7:43:38 GMT
Now that has got me thinking...... I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. I thought you would like her politics - very right wing Labour, socially quite conservative? And Mps don't have the right to a job for life. Of course a local party has the right to deselect a candidate. |
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Post by La Fontaine on Jun 24, 2019 8:22:37 GMT
I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. I thought you would like her politics - very right wing Labour, socially quite conservative? And Mps don't have the right to a job for life. Of course a local party has the right to deselect a candidate. She has views quite contrary to mine, such as opposing devolution. But she is not invisible. If she were, i wouldn't know what her views were! |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 24, 2019 8:23:48 GMT
I suspect Mary Glindon. I oppose deselection but I wouldn't shed a tear over her. Not at all. Really grim. I thought you would like her politics - very right wing Labour, socially quite conservative? And Mps don't have the right to a job for life. Of course a local party has the right to deselect a candidate. From what I hear from (not 'on the left') friends up there she shames people having abortions, and is terribly anti-gay. Worst kind of RC. And that the criticism of inactivity is not inaccurate in many areas. It's interesting to hear about the selection. Everyone is anti-spad and pro local Fred. Until local Fred turns out to be useless and the 'professional politician' quite.. professional. |
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